Re-posted as requested from October 16, 2010
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The following post is from a current member at Trinity Baptist in Southaven.
My dearest fellow Trinity members,
I am going to write to you because there are some things I feel you should know. Some of this you may know and some you may not, but I think this information may make some of the things we are seeing make more sense. I am not going to print opinions, unreliable information, or hearsay; I only want to give you the facts, although I will give you some of the conclusions I have drawn at the end. The following information comes straight from Chad Everson’s resume, and you can verify by following the links included at the end of this post.
Chad does not have a legitimate doctorate degree, nor is his master’s degree from a notable, accredited institution. As we all know, Chad does not have a problem talking about his time at Mid-America Seminary. It gives him credibility because MABTS is well regarded, especially in our area, because it is so close. He threw it around quite a bit when he came in view of a call because Dr. Mahony was there. He did not graduate from MABTS, though. He finished his “education” at Andersonville Baptist Seminary.
Why is this important? A Master’s of Divinity (the traditional program for those who want to pastor) at MABTS requires 88 semester hours, which is 30 classes and generally takes 3 years or longer to complete. The Master’s of Theology degree from Andersonville only requires 30 semester hours, which is only 10 classes and, according to Andersonville’s website, can be completed in as little as 12 months. What does that mean? It means that our pastor has less education than most of the rest of our staff, and I use “most” only because I don’t know Jon Rushing’s educational background. The major Southern Baptist seminaries don’t even recognize degrees or coursework from Andersonville.
The “Doctor of Ministry” degree from Lake Charles Bible College is no better: mail in a few hundred dollars, read and complete 5 workbooks, and anyone can have this degree. It is basically a diploma mill. What does MABTS require to receive a doctorate? A Master’s from an accredited institution with no lower than a “B” average, 2 years of ministry experience, and 32 doctoral level hours, including a major ministry project, seminars, and a final major exam. It also takes generally THREE YEARS to complete this program. Even the application process is difficult – it takes the doctoral committee 60 days to review applications to the program, whereas Lake Charles’ website states that you “can even start the day you apply.” Getting a real doctorate is NOT easy – talk to anyone who has done it or attempted it. It is so intense, many pastors have to take a sabbatical from their churches to finish it, and I have even met some ministers who have nearly lost their families due to the time consuming nature of the program. Calling yourself a doctor of anything with a “degree” like Chad’s this is a true slap in the face to anyone who actually put in the time and effort to really earn theirs. Would you let your open heart surgery be performed by a doctor who bought their doctor’s degree and put in little time or effort? I didn’t think so; neither would I. Why do we expect any less from one who we trust with our church’s spiritual health?
For those of you who were here when Bro. Jim was presented in view of a call 20 years ago: Do you remember the big stink created about his doctorate obtained through Luther Rice Seminary? Do you remember Dr. Skinner being so upset by the lack of requirements needed to graduate from LRS? This is so much worse. At least LRS requires that you actually do real work, even if it is by correspondence.
MABTS Master of Divinity: http://www.mabts.edu/templates/System/details.asp?id=23267&PID=69474
Andersonville Master of Theology: http://www.andersonvilleseminary.com/pdf/ThM.pdf
MABTS Doctor of Ministry: http://www.mabts.edu/templates/System/details.asp?id=23267&PID=69482
Lake Charles Bible College Doctor of Ministry: http://www.lakecharlesbiblecollege.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34:doctorofministry&catid=14:doctors&Itemid=9
My conclusions:
Why is this relevant? Why does this bother me, and why should it bother you? Because we have a pastor who is passing himself off as something he is not. THAT is a fundamental problem with anyone, but this is inexcusable for a pastor. Transparency of a pastor should not be optional! How can a pastor expect to build relationships with his church if he isn’t real? He never said that he did graduate from Mid-America, but he conveniently leaves out where he did finish. You can check this for yourself. Check out his personally posted profiles at http://bigsight.org/chad_everson , https://www.xing.com/profile/Chad_Everson , http://www.ziki.com/en/chad-everson+132964 , http://www.linkedin.com/in/chadaeverson , and so on.
If he is so proud of his time at Mid-America and lists it under “education”, why purposefully leave out Andersonville and Lake Charles? Because Chad knows that other pastors know the reputation of those “institutions,” and it will defeat the purpose. Why else would someone want to obtain a doctorate and not tell everyone where it came from? It is interesting that the very thing he has used to try give himself credibility, in my opinion, has discredited him in the deceptive way he has gone about it. And, while we’re at it, am I the only one who has a problem with a pastor promoting himself on these professional sites? What is the purpose? Shouldn’t promoting the cause of Christ be more important than promoting ourselves?
And why is it okay to take the “short route” with your “education?” Just to call yourself a doctor? Just to have the prestige and recognition? When does a pastor, above anyone, need to promote himself? Isn’t it his job to promote the Lord Jesus, not himself? Aren’t you only cheating yourself out of a proper education just to get a few letters to tack onto the beginning of your name? Aren’t you cheating your churches out of the knowledge and insight you would have gained by obtaining a real degree? And if a pastor is willing to take the “short route” to a degree, in what else is he willing to take a short cut?
I love you, Trinity! Remember to be like Peter. Keep your eyes fixed on Christ and not the crashing waves around you, and by all means, don’t sink!!
Trinity Member
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This is kind of like peeling an onion, isn't it?
Layer after layer, all the same!
It is smelly!
It makes you cry!
It is onion to the core!
It lingers and embarrasses you!
Onion?...YES!
Fruit?...NO!
Think, men of Trinity...how many more layers are there to this man?
How long will you let the destruction continue?
It is no different than Chad claiming to be a doctor. If he did this it would hurt their lives here on earth. He would misdiagnose someone and they would die. Here he screams and yells so much and so when people die they are doomed to HELL. All because he LIED about his education.
He LIES so much he doesn't even know the truth.
I so remember the fuss over Bro. Jim. Some of the same people who are looking the other way now ere heading the charge then. What is the difference? It is just like he preaches he gives the word and then dances around with his opinion. That is the problem. He can say what his education level is but he won't tell the entire truth about it.
A wonderful Godly lady (Mrs. Joy) told me a long time ago this important wisdom..... A little sin is the same as a BIG sin to God. It is not just a little white lie it is a LIE!
There is just NO WAY that Chad can have an effective ministry here. Him and Jeff and Jon and please take Michele can just move on. 6 months after Chad came I told him and Michele that they needed to stop listening to Jimmy Hughes because he just wanted to get even with people he did not like. They would not listen./ They were more intent in me coming before the church and becoming their first to face discipline. I was wring and needed to repent. I was telling the truth. I told them they needed to love us and stop all the yelling. They needed to follow their own advice and stop listening to gossip. Stop being a trash can. But in all we talked about I needed to be brought before the church. Only then would Trinity see Matt. 18 in work and the church would be healed. He did not care about the facts he just wanted someone guilty of anything or not to be brought before the church. Well now we need to bring him before the church. His crimes:
1. Lying to gain employment
2.Changing us to 9 Marks without a vote.
3. Attacking the staff, deacons, PSC members, reg. members and choir.
3. Removing people's names from church roll.
4. Bulling everyone and not giving a RIP!
5. Being a JERK!
Any many more.
Apparently he is a fraud. Is that not grounds to dismiss him. Any company in the country will terminate your employment for lying on an application. To Chad this is a business for personal gain, and all those left are willing to pay his enormous unearned salary for an online degree.
I'm sure all of those hard working unemployed people with actual degrees, in the congregation, are feeling great about this.
Nothing but a fraud since Day 1
Don't think these boys won't lie?
Don't forget about the Georgia Baptist Convention and their propaganda paper lying for Mike Everson for almost 2 years about Mike Everson's education. They posted he graduated from (3) Colleges and seminaries until they were busted~!
It - the retraction that was forced by Doug in Atlanta - is on www. thecultbuster.blogspot.com
Read it for yourself!
But these Everson's are NOT the only ones who "technically" are Doctor with the Baptist Cult Denomination.
Now your on my subject.
Dr. Who:
Do you know if the amount of education, specifically the "Doctor" degree affects the salary scale in SBC churches?
I have been told that Finance Committees base a new pastor's salary on the church's membership numbers and on a scale based on the average salaries of other like-sized churches. Is that true?
If salaries are based on size, Chad's should be cut by a whopping percentage! Between the numbers he has erased from the rolls and those he has run off, there aren't enough folks left to keep the worship center from echoing.
If you know the facts, please post so that we can understand why he's still being paid his obscene salary. Surely there is no contract. This is a calling...isn't it??
A new equation:
Money STOPS = Chad GOES
This must end soon. There is no way that Chad can continue here. It is like a board member being censured. They are there because they won't leave, but no one will listen to them or believe them. Chad is a "Lame Duck". The deacons and finance committee better take away his check book and credit card. We will not sit back and pay for any trips for you either. Better call daddy to find you another job. Try a church that wants your style and thinks you are right we did not vote on what you are now we voted on the actor you were 2 1/2 years ago. You played the part well and talked so well but are nothing you portrayed a loving, compassionate, Pastor who was going to come in and take charge and correct the problems that Trinity had. Little did we know you were going to come in and keep the bad and make the good bad.
Go away call Carmen K and she will have your back. She can sell your house and you can move on.
I think Chad should have a major pay cut. Our attendance is down by 65% and so he needs a 65% pay cut. Now see how much the troublemakers and lying backstabbers are needed.
all of this was already explained the day he came in view of a call. if you remember, there was an insert in the worship guide that listed his education. the reason he didn't graduate from MABTS, is because he was called by the church in GA as their pastor before he finished his degree. In case you didn't know, it's quite a long commute from GA to Memphis every day. Therefore, he didn't lie about his education. You were not on the PSC so you don't know what he said. Trust me, it was all explained.
If you don't have any new allegations, don't bring up old stuff that has already been explained! That's all that is posted on this blog....old stuff! There is nothing new, so they just repost old blog entries.
Another lie, he knows why he did not graduate and so do others. Our PSC lacked a backbone just as he does. They should have never even presented him to us.
The new are the families and lives he is destroying daily. Besides all this is new for those PSC's reviewing his resume right now.
You are so right the old stuff is the way the PSC did not do their jobs. OK we understand that. They only called the people that Chad gave them to call just like any other potential employer would. Chad only gave the good people to tell us what we he needed us to know. Chad and Michele told several people that he gave the PSC the names of Billy and Doug for them to call well guess what ???? Yes another LIE. The PSC never got their names from Chad and Michele. It just keeps on getting worse. I talked to Mrs. Avis and Bonnie R. both on the PSC and both told me (before Chad started) That Chad was a wonderful man. He loves the senior adults and children's ministry. He knows about the problems in the nursery and has every intention to replace and correct it. He was told about how Pam and Greg treated Mrs. Becky and Chad was appalled. He stated that he would look into it and there is no way a lady who had worked in pre-school would be treated this way. His way to correct it was to run off Karen the only one who worked back there, and try to bully Mrs. Becky into an apology to Pam. He attacked the choir and it's officers. He blamed the for all the problems at Trinity. He has run all them off including some who were new officers and had no clue what he was talking about. They were in the same boat as Chad because he did not know what he was talking about either.
The new problems can go back to Sunday night when he suggested the people upset over his staying should consider CYANIDE! I have NEVER in my life heard such talk from a pastor. This is what he thinks all the time he just finally said it out loud. It is time for him and his motley crew to vacate Trinity and we need a PSC who will not allow this to ever happen again. Everyone in the church will be doing background checks on the new pastor. Chad just made it harder for the real men of God. It will be hard to trust anyone.
Sometimes we don't look at new comments on the older pages but I thought this was one worth seeing again.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the person who said they were gonna stop short of calling Chad Demonic Let me do it for you.. This man has Not shown any fruits of God. He has not shown any love for anyone But himself. And to all the people who Feels he preaches the Word remember even the Demons know the scripture.This man hates The People of God . He has tried to do nothing but confuse us. He has even twisted God's word but you fools still support Him. Take Chad out of the picture and Think about what would happen if any preacher did the things He has Done.. He would be run out of the Church. Chad's Actions are Nothing short of being Demonic. And I can assure his True Spiritual Father Is not Jesus. FSM
April 13, 2011 6:55 AM
I wish we had like buttons to click. This one makes so much sense. Satan and his forces know more about the Bible than most seasoned Christians do. Think about it!!
Two hours ago I saw a wonderful lady from Trinity. She thought I was still there and I thought the same about her. Well we were neither there but she asked me what was going on? I had no answers for her. I asked her because her in-laws are still at Trinity and she said they did not speak about Trinity anymore with them. It made for family fights. They almost stopped visiting them because of the arguments. The grand kids did not see their grandparents for almost 6 weeks over CHAD. How sad. I can understand not liking him and leaving but this is the 5th such family I have heard this about in the past few months.
Chad is bad for families, hearts and Trinity. He needs to leave and if he were a real man of God he would.
Anonymous at April 12, 2011 11:36 PM wrote:
"all of this was already explained the day he came in view of a call. if you remember, there was an insert in the worship guide that listed his education. the reason he didn't graduate from MABTS, is because he was called by the church in GA as their pastor before he finished his degree. In case you didn't know, it's quite a long commute from GA to Memphis every day. Therefore, he didn't lie about his education. You were not on the PSC so you don't know what he said. Trust me, it was all explained."
So does this mean you WERE on the PSC? If so, then WHY was this educational background not checked out? Or if you are one of the Baptist mafia, then your comment makes perfect sense. No one said that he said he graduated from MABTS. But why not talk about Andersonville the way he talks about Mid America? Most people are proud of where they went to school. It gives the appearance of being shady, that's all.
You are right about one thing. Everyone was given a handout with his resume on it, but we had no idea we needed to check his credentials for ourselves. That should have been done long before Chad was presented to the church. It is an issue of integrity. Why would a pastor want to short change himself and his church by getting a non-accredited masters degree that takes half the time?
If MABTS is so great, why wouldn't you want to finish somewhere that has just as good a reputation? And what purpose does a sham of a doctorate serve if you don't have to do much of anything to earn it? To give yourself credibility? So people won't ask questions because you must know what you are talking about? To earn more money? It just doesn't add up. Please explain.
(To music) Thump, Thump, Thump....And another one bites the dust! Steve Jackson has been terminated. He was here pre-Chad and to be honest should have not been on payroll to begin with. He was one that lead the orchestra. He had always been paid a small amount for this but when Bro. Rod left (because of Chad not the choir members of officers) Chad paid Steve more money to run the choir too. This he did as well as possible not having the experience. Jon does not have it either but Chad hired him. We know NOTHING about his experience or education. All Jon said was he used to sing in a praise team. He told me this but Chad had to have him and no telling how much he makes we were not told.
Back to Steve he now without pay and that is fine with Chad because that saved money that does not come out of his own pay.
What about Pam, Angie, Cindy, Tim, Jonathan, Jeff Summars, and all the other paid people in the nursery.So few children left why are they all still being paid? The 6 or more ladies in the office. John M. the Senior Adult Min. we have so few left do we need him?, Greg Nothing to say there he is and always will be worthless to Trinity. Bubba preaches great rather hear him that Chad any day but what else does he do. I think he does the web-site bit it has not changed in months. Brad still preaches great but with so few youth?? Jon "Nuff Said"! A few others that Chad has hired for "Special Needs". Many more. All these people are going to be hurting all because the deacons and personnel committee will not do the right thing.
Steve Jackson and all the orchestra gone who will be next? Many more unless you all Man Up!!
Steve Jackson is a fine man and this is a dirty deal! He is talented and dedicated. But...Chad and his merry band of "Elders" have to be paid their big bucks, don't they?
How many more good people have to be thrown under the bus before Trinity wakes up?
You are going to be alone with Chad one day soon...him and a mountain of debt...all because there are no real men in authority at Trinity, who will stand up and rescue their church.
Is Chad worth it?
WAKE UP!
Steve Jackson? That was an interesting choice to cut from the music area. I wonder if Carol Ann is still paid for children's choir?
Well i love Jeff and Carol Ann. I think they have a heart for serving the Lord and others. But you are known for the company you keep. Jeff is more passive and has just followed Chad out of it being comfortable.A lot of us do this in our career. It is easier to stay with what you know than to breakout and do something different. Jeff is far more educated than Chad, and a lot more humble or it may just be his passivity. I pray that the inner circle would call Chad out on his leadership ways. You can be a strong leader without being a jerk. In fact the strongest leaders i have been around are people of great character and kindness. You can get your vision across to people and execute that vision without the sarcasm and fake bravado. But like babies who cant communicate all he can do is scream.
He will be gone soon, so like a lot of pastors he will leave the physical church in huge debt(thanks). And he can just go on with his life with no accountability for what he has done.I hear a lot of churches are growing not b/c they are liberal but b/c they are meeting the needs of individuals and are serving there communities needs where they are. The old saying " people don't care about what you know until they know that you care. Ravi Zachria says its not just our message it is our method as well. We know this in our personal life. We can not talk to our wives any old way and have them follow (unless they are abused) It is our tone and the way we word things. But i know this is harder to do. It is easier to just try to control people. But it is COSTLY for all involved.
I worked Children's Choir for many years and NEVER was paid for it. It was a joy to be able to serve. I never expected to be paid.
I talked with a person in leadership Tuesday night after the last two meaningless Sunday night services. I asked him (not to say his name because he will be gone next) "Do you really follow Chad or do you agree he is wrong?" He answered We tried to say things before Chad came when we knew he was wrong for Trinity. We feared what was going to happen and it is so much worse that we could have even imagined. We know he has to leave but the deacons and committees don't want to be the ones to do it. They keep hoping he will just leave." He also added " Maybe it was God's will for Chad to be here. Maybe He wanted us to put an end to his career of destroying churches. See it is not always easy to be a David but we can be if the men would just have the faith of a mustard seed."
This man was heartbroken over what is happening. No I did not say he was a staff member because he is not but he is in leadership and is willing if Tim Wyatt would step up and be the true leader of the deacons and do something. Tim will not because he and Angie his wife and other friends and family are on payroll as well. Does Tim not trust that God will be behind him and will protect him from Chad. Well if he is doing nothing for that reason he will answer for it. If he waits until Angie is fired along with Steve Jackson it will speak of Tim's character.
We all know Chad has to leave and there is more than pride at stake here. It is better to stand up and say we were WRONG to vote Chad in but it is more WRONG to allow him to continue.
I have left but not moved my letter yet. I just hope none of these deacons or leaders come to the church I am at. I will go to the preacher and tell him just how lousy of leaders you were. This may follow you forever.
I would almost bet Balaam's donkey was named Chad.
I think we should take for once some of Bro. Chad's advise on if you really love your members of the church then you should go to them and tell them that it looks like something is wrong. But in our case tell them what you have witnessed going on at Trinity instead of hear say. That is what I am doing telling the truth. Like why don't people go down anymore to give their profession of faith? Instead they take a new members class. This is the time Trinity Members to stand up and use our freedom of speech. If you know a deacon tell them how you feel. Maybe if enough people stand up to Goliath- he will fall.
I agree Tim and the other deacons need to do something we are begging. What do they want from us? A vote ? A Petition? WHAT???? We do not want to see God's church fall. We have stayed and tried to follow him but he wants us all to change and do what he says. He is not even willing to see that some of it could be him. He wants us to give more this week and I don't have it! I do not live on a golf course and I work to help my family. Chad will have to do more himself. Stop firing everyone else and FIRE CHAD!
Chad should be paid by active members. Maybe we can give him a base pay and then bonuses for keeping members and for tithe. Hummm Trinity might just make money on this deal. He would OWE US!
Tim will not do anything. Chad has him "in his pocket". His wife is on the payroll. As much as she complains about her job, there's no way she would do it for free.
Who will be next to go? Pam, Greg, John, Mary?
You will answer for the lives and families you've hurt, Chad.
Someone better wake up soon. DeSoto Hills has just started a new 3rd morning service, Walk in it looks like Trinity. Mostly young couples, you know the ones who love Chad and Jeff. Yes they are all leaving. There are a lot of them going to Life Fellowship too. EVERYONE CAN'T BE WRONG AND CHAD BE RIGHT!! Do something all you deacons and staff members will soon be looking for a new place of worship. None of you will be welcomed in any of the churches around here. There are too many members at them who have seen what you have allowed to happen and we are blaming you totally.
I think we should all boycott Trinity's Big Church time. I will not call it worship it is far from worship. Lets go to BFG and leave. There are many who go in "Big Church" every week just because, but this week let him and his very few enjoy the service. Go to another church and see what real worship is like again.
It is my understanding that the "Deacons"(LOL)are supposed to help out when the church has a problem. But, in this case, the deacons are the problem. To continually support this man is a continutation of the destruction of the church. Is this man worth the downfall of Trinity? Deacons you need to think about what you are allowing to happen. Chad has scattered the flock for the third time. This will be "blood on his hands" at the judgement seat. May God have mercy on his soul.
Deacons please take a stand and save our church. For GOD'S sake.
Please take a minute and watch this video about "Christianity vs Calvinism". Listen to whom the Calvinist Lady refers to as her idols. I have sat in the pew at Trinity and heard Chad mention these names as great men of faith. Recommending the books to read also. Watch for yourself and see what you think. Then be BOLD enough to send it to your Trinity family members for them to see. Anyone from the old churches of Chad did he mention these names there before also?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIXkoMvYPJE
Does anyone know the names of all the deacons currently at Trinity? Is there a list somewhere? Also does anyone know who is left from the PSC that found and recommended Chad? I need to know the ones that are currently at Trinity and haven't left yet. Maybe if we can get the Deacons & PSC to admit they were wrong. We can come together as a church and forgive them and get rid of Chad & the other staff members & Deacons that follow him as well.
Maybe when he wants to sell the church and buy some land in Guyana everyone will wake up. He's already brought up cyanide in the last business meeting.
Most of the deacons who were here when Chad was voted in were telling us to vote NO on Chad. Now they are forced to stand behind him. It is the deacons job to keep the pastor accountable. We all must be accountable but when Chad was given an open checkbook and the freedom to hire and fire at will( HOW STUPID)He took that as he owned Trinity. No You Don't Chad!
Young couples are leaving Children and youth depts. are falling. Most of the senior adults are gone. This is not and entire LOST church. It is a church who knows and understands what a wonderful gift God gave us, and we want to enjoy the wonderful fellowship of other believers. We are not wanting a church with a fluffy feel good message and a happy Smilin Sam preacher, but we do want one who preaches the real word of God and not this perverted opinion of it.
Stay home Sunday go somewhere else we MUST show the leadership or lack there of that we are serious about saving Trinity. Who will be the modern HERO?
I just can't understand how he thinks he looks or sounds Godly when he spouts off such things as If your not happy I am staying go home and drink cyanide. That was what he basically said. Honestly does anyone here for or against him think this comment was something that should have been said from the pulpit? I I had said that he should go home and drink it I would have been brought up on charges and sent to,Parkwood. Why is he so different? He is not! Knowing everyone is watching everything he says and does he did it for spite. He is showing us and the deacons and committee members and the staff that he can do what he wants and it is fine. No one here should or will stand up to him and he owns us. The man is sick with power and he must be stopped.
Show him I like the idea of staying home this Sunday. I will go somewhere else where Jesus is still on the throne.
What if we all took a stand for CHRIST and did not attend Trinity Easter Sunday. Kinda like a boycott -The day CHRISTIANS celebrate Christ dying on the cross then 3 days later he rose from the dead so that WHOEVER (not just the elect) believes in him will have eternal life in Heaven. Instead find a Bible Believen Church where the Pastor is Humble not Arrogant and does not take away from or add to God's Word. I am going to make that promise will anyone else???
He is sick........
My family will be elsewhere. Easter is a joyful, victorious day and we will be where the focus is totally on Our Risen Savior!!
A Blessed, Happy Easter to all of you. Put aside the problems and enjoy the day knowing you are a "WHOSOEVER" saved by the precious blood Jesus shed for ALL! Hallelujah! That never changes!
Yes. Please... All that are mad and write on this site please skip Easter service at Trinity... We'll miss all 8 of y'all...
Anonymous said....
Chad how could you keep on destroying and destroying our Church? How could God bless a Ministry that you are a part of when it has been "BUILT" On "DECEPTION" and "LIES"....
I have been a member at Trinity for over 40 years and you come in with your Craziness and tare a part a Church that has been built on "LOVE AND TRUST"....
We were not a "WEAK" Church but we are Loving and Trusting Church....and you took advantage of that trust and love...
But now that some "LEADERS" have realized what you are all about you want have much longer. I know and believe that....
So you better have saved some of that money we have paid you because you will have a long"HAUL"ahead of you before you see a pay check like you are seeing now...
Maybe your "EVIL" Dad can bunk you and Michelle when you get on HWY.78....
You will not get a Church any where when your gone you are too well known. See we all have family and friends in every state...
To 7:06
You would like to believe that there are only 8 people upset and angry. Only 8 people posting here. Keep on trying to convince yourself. Look around or are you so dense that you think all went on a diet and lost weight and that is why the worship center looks like less people. When you go to the parking lot and all the empty spots are there well that must be because of gas prices and people are walking to church or car pooling. If you believe that I would like to sell you some swamp land and maybe you and the "Evilson's" can go there to live. Just don't let Chad do the cooking because he told you Sunday Night what types of spices he uses. Better wake up!
I think only 8 people like Chad is what 7:06 meant.
Lets see ....
1. Chad
2. Michele
3. Jimmy Hughes
4. Jeff S
5. Carol Ann
6. Jon
7. Jon's wife
8. Tim Wyatt
That about sums it up. There is 1 woman but I don't think Chad wants her name put here! Hummmmm??
I will be happy to attend a real Bible believing, Bible Teaching, Jesus praising and People loving church. Sick of this mess.
I DID IT!! I went to a church this morning and just loved it. So many people were just going on about LaBelle Haven Bapt. I know Bro. Chad is just hating Bro. Jim being back but I so much enjoyed it. The music was wonderful. I almost shouted several times. The message was about the cross. Guess what? There is more than what Chad believes. See Chad takes us to the foot of the cross and then leaves us there. No God gave us this gift of eternal life and it is FREE and for the asking(A PRAYER) They had 8 people join last week according to their bulletin. They had 9 join today and 2 came for salvation! Trinity has not had that many in months. I left there so energized and happy. Not because of a feel good message but because I knew what I had always known about the Bible and Jesus was true. See I heard TRUTH today and left with a clear mind. No confusion! Satan and Chad are the authors of confusion. Can't wait til Wednesday night I think I will visit again. I am looking forward to going back to church. It has been such a drudgery since Chad came. Thank you to whoever suggested we boycott Trinity.
Go to Labelle. Bro Jim is there and he is a man of God.
Went to Sunday School at Trinity today. I left right after the music. I guessed there were probably 250-300 people there today. It is getting bad here. Wake up soon. Not wasting my time on another Sunday night service. I think it is a crying joke. Nothing to laugh about. Thanks lack of leadership. If things keep on like this we will be closed in 2 months flat.
I visited Bro. Jim's church also today and it felt like I was at home. So many ex-Trinity members there. He preached about the cross and how the one thief was saved on the cross. Hmmm Chad I guess you would say he was predestined for that. NOT! The truth is he recognized who Christ was and went to paradise. Chad I have a predestine for you. If you don't repent of your sins and false teachings you will be going to where the other thief went. If Chad left tommorrow I still would not be back because of all of the deacons that wouldn't stand up to him. Instead of doing the right thing and putting GOD first they are thinking about their precious titles. Hope it is worth it. Also the entire staff would need to leave also.
How can I find out the names of all the deacons currently at Trinity?
I visited DHBC yesterday. I ran into two other couples that were at Sunday nights service. We all agreed that the cyanide comment was the last straw. If he said it then it is apparent that he thinks it and probably worse. This is NOT what a man of God should be like. Sorry to all the people I have argued with. You were right and I was wrong. I may return if the deacons get rid of Chad. Although my family really enjoyed church yesterday. I have not visited any churches during this time. It was wonderful. I had forgotten what church was like. I remember when our services were this good. A long time ago. :-(
Yes I am a BFG teacher if you can call it that anymore. The people in my class yesterday left and went to lunch early. They discussed it in class and asked me. (NOT OPENLY) I told them I did not blame them. As church started only about 300 if that many were there. No one came forward I guess because Chad has run off all the lost people.I have tried to stay faithful under his teachings but it is hard. As soon as the new BFG year starts I will be leaving if Chad is still here. It was really sad here yesterday. Next week is Easter a day to celebrate the gift that God gave us. It would be an awesome gift if the deacons would stand up to Chad and he left for his gift to us.
you can call the church. They should have no problem telling you telling you the deacons names.
Guys, I really don't care what you think about Bro. Chad, and you don't care what anyone else thinks. But speak the truth if you can recognize it.
From the Q and A: "Some will rejoice in this and others will want to drink cyanide. But I am not going anywhere" exact quote from the man. Yes I was there and I sat and listened and thought the questions were answered.
Next, I was sitting closer to the front and I saw three adults who went out to be counseled. I like you lying it really adds credibility to the site.
Here's a little bet, call the church if there was less than 400 I will write an apology and sign my name. It was well more than that, you do it. If not that, move on with your sad lives.
Oh to 3:11
No one lied here. The comments that were made here on this site said exactly that. But the fact is that I was there yesterday. I counted aprox. 300 people if you count the people sitting in the foyer because that can't stomach Chad and the kids in the nursery then I will agree there were about 400+ there. NOT in the worship. Like I will get a honest answer from the staff on the numbers there. They have been told by Chad what to report.
But OK if you say over 400 there this past Sunday morning then I will accept your math skills. But suck it up and deal with the fact that there were over 1000 in Sunday A.M. service when Chad was voted in. 600+ came on Sunday nights and more on Wednesday nights for Bible studies and choir ect.....You did not help Chad any.
It will take all 400 people giving at least $135.00 each per week to make budget. WHY?? Because NO ONE will stand up to Chad. So please don't call us liars.
** The fact is Chad should not have made that inappropriate comment. He can say stupid things like that and we the membership were not even allowed to ask questions. WOW **
I just called the church I used *67 on my phone so they could not trace the call to me and have Chad and Jimmy Hughes come knocking tonight. I was told when I asked about the numbers from yesterday that it would be listed next week in the bulletin and I could come then and find out. I was also told they were not allowed to give that information out. I wonder what they are trying to hide?
Again, you hear and read what you want to. You said 300 and I gave you another 100 to boot. I will tell you waay over that. But don't want to confuse you with facts.
What planet are you on? 600 on Sunday night. Maybe when Jim Butler was here before he was hated. I know I haven't seen 600 on a pm service in 5 years for a regular Sunday night. So is Chad now blamed for 5 years ago? Give me a break! Your stupid lies can work on people who wear rose colored glasses, or have never been in Southaven. I know Trinity was a stellar church, I mean the history is great. Over 50 staff Members come and gone. A homosexual music guy, a man who's wife leaves him while he is here, one whose family wouldn't join him here. I know who joined here when Colonial Hills changed all of the mad Member's who blamed the Pastor then. Nope I haven't been at Trinity but 5 but our testimony was horrible. I joined because I really thought change was coming. But David Jett didn't want to go through this trash. But finally leadership is standing up. Put your name out and we will come see you in love but calling you to repent! Go ahead, but it won't be Chad or Jimmy. We will not let our leadership have cheapshots taken any longer. Leave or repent. But move on!
Repent for WHAT????????? Cheap Shots!!! You mean like "All of you troublemakers" "You are the problems of the church" You want cheap shots what about CYANIDE?? There is nothing to repent for. Maybe when Chad leads the way others will follow. Why don't you 5 year member who has taken some cheap shots at past staff members you did not know. Why don't you REPENT??
You are SICK!! You have not been a member for 5 years I think not! Sounds like a Chad or Michele TROLL to me. Sign your name if you are so big and brave!! You won't because you can't without lying about who you are! We had 500+ on Sunday night when Chad first came. I know I was there. I will end the same way I started YOUR SICK!!
Chad is posting again. He can't be happy with his big paycheck and now no one to worry about. Yes DeSoto Hills has started a third service and Life Fellowship is building another church. Labelle Haven has had several hundred join in the last month. Longview Heights had had close to 100 join. Every church in the area is growing .... All but Trinity. I thought Chad said it was the economy that was hurting the churches. No it has nothing to do with the economy it has to do with the NUT in the pulpit at Trinity.
Say what you want but when Chad came we were running close to a thousand in the worship center on Sunday A.M. if not more and 500 or more on Sunday night. I remember now we are down to 300 on Sunday A.M. say what you will my figures are more accurate.
I hope Chad and Michele are enjoying how they have tore this church apart. People fighting and the only person happy is Chad. No matter what he is paid to do this. Hope you laugh so hard it hurts.
I find it funny that 4 of you post 10 times and 100's are mad and any time someone posts for the direction the Lord is taking Trinity...well it must be Chad or Michele. Everyone said there is no reasoning with your bitterness. Remember bitterness is drinking poison and hoping the other person dies. Sorry for you.
It makes no difference on how Chad said the comment about cyanide it should have not been made. I don't know who the person is who is posting about us lying but you are the one who seems to have it wrong. If Chad was right the church would be growing. Maybe he should say I'm sorry and repent as well then others may follow suite. He is an abusive pastor and if he abuses us what must he do to his family?
To anon on April 18 at 5:32pm :
You said you've only been at Trinity for 5 years? You seem to know an awful lot about Trinity's past to have been here such a short time. Let me tell you something, from those of us who were there. Those men were a part of our church family, and we loved them, especially CB. Our whole church hurt over that. How dare you bring up incidents from 15 years ago to make things seem better now, and you weren't even here. Who do you think you are? I have a guess. Especially since you also mentioned the "50 staff members who have left" who were also brought up in Chad's blog a couple of months ago. I don't suppose the 4 staff members (including Chad) who left their churches and have come to Trinity in the last 3 years somehow have done the same thing, have they?
If you want to bring up skeletons in the closet, let's do that for both sides, and things that involve our current leaders. How about the recreation minister at Madison Street who was arrested for "lewd and laciviousness conduct on a person under 16."
http://www.stopbaptistpredators.org/article08/jeffrey_lamar_carter.html
This was a good friend and mentor who Chad quietly "let go" for "crossing the line" a few months before he was arrested. Where is the church discipline? That's #7 in the 9 Marks of a church, if I'm not mistaken.
That's an admission that he knew about it and didn't go to the police. That in itself is a crime. And when did this happen? In the 6 months before Chad came. Jeff Carter was arrested 1 month before Chad came in view of a call and was already talking to the PSC at Trinity. I'm sure none of this factored into his decision to leave FL, did it? Then he had the nerve to tell a portion of the story at Trinity - that he "didn't have a problem firing people that needed to be fired" because he had recently fired his good friend, failing to mention what his good friend had done and was about to be arrested for it. Please.
As I said, if we're going to pull skeletons out of the closet, they're going to have to come out on both sides.
To 8:43
I personally don't car if you are Chad or Michelle or Jimmy H. or Carmen K. If I thought for one minute that the Lord was still at Trinity I would still be there. I am still a member (unless Chad has removed me without mailing a card) So still being a member I do have a voice to post here. I only know that Chad has caused so much hurt, pain and division that Trinity will NEVER recover. You post about past staff members and that is supposed to make you better than us. I think not. You claim only 4 people are making everyone upset, that is not true. It is just your way to make yourself feel better about what is happening to the church. Search your own heart before you go ripping others here and then try to look Holy.
If you have only been at Trinity for 5 years then you have been listening to a lot of GOSSIP!! Chad would call you a "Garbage Can" Chad's words not mine.
I do understand the anger and hurt from both sides. We were so excited about Bro. Chad coming. The PSC committee told us all about him and his plans for Trinity. Right now they are blown away by the way he is behaving. No one ever thought for one second that Trinity would be in this shape in 2 years. No one gave him the right to change us from Southern Baptist to 9 marks. I called the SBC and they said we can't be both and that the SBC was NOT endorsing the 9 marks. There are a few on the PSC who are really happy about Chad. Not just acting it in public. Greg Morris and Wayne Spell are the only two that I have not heard personally wishing they had not called him. Yes I have heard the others say they made a mistake.
Look at the facts the church would be growing if God were in control but a church can't serve two masters. Chad or God? I choose GOD!! I do not need to repent for this nor do I owe you or anyone else an apology. I am going to listen to Blackabee and I am looking at where God is working, moving, growing, worshiped, praised, loved and I will join Him there. Unfortunately I will have to leave Trinity cause it ain't happening here.
To the Chad cheerleader:
How and why does a true "Man of God", who is...in your eyes...such a great pastor, destroy THREE churches? Not much of a testimony, is it?
Will you stop cheering when Trinity is foreclosed on...or will that be the fault of all those lost, NON-ELECT traitors that have fled?
Hmmmm...wonder why all those hundreds and hundreds didn't love his arrogant, mean spirited dictatorship like you do?
Can you honestly tell us that hundreds and hundreds of people who left his churches were all just afraid of his straight, tough preaching? Or...perhaps their God-given discernment showed them a dangerous, Baptist-hating ego-maniac?
Grape Kool-Aid anyone?
I understand that everyone is upset about the state of Trinity and Chad is an easy person to blame. However, it is not Chad's fault. I can tell you the exact time that the Lord decided to remove His blessing from Trinity.
It was in July 2007. David Jett and the vision team that was made up of a diverse group of people, were getting ready to launch the new service, which would have added an option of a new worship service, not taking anything away. A loud, vocal group of members were vehemently opposed to this and went to great lengths to try and stop it. Most of them were disgruntled members who joined TBC from Colonial Hills. There were threats left on the voicemail of several staff members, greeters at the door trying to sway everyone from supporting the pastor, among other sinful things.
Whether you wanted to add this option of worship of not, is not the issue. It's not about us. Our pastor felt the Lord leading us in that direction, and instead of following our leader, they chose to protest and cause a major division. From that point on, the Lord had no more use for Trinity, because the members would not follow the man that He had ordained to lead the church. It all goes back to selfishness. If we won't follow our leader, then the Lord can't use us. I hurts me to think about how the Lord could have used our church in our community. Have you ever wondered why God called David Jett to such a growing, active church in Brandon. Because he wanted to bless David for his obedience.
I know you people think that Chad lied to get his job. I hate to break it to you, but you are wrong. Have you ever thought that this was God's plan for Trinity. The Lord disciplines those that are disobedient. Rebelling against a leader that the Lord has placed in our church is disobedience.
You can blame all of this on Chad if you want, but you are doing nothing but exposing your ignorance. The issues at Trinity now are not Chad's fault. They are Trinity's fault. We brought it on ourselves because of our disobedience.
This is not the fault of the PSC. We as a church elected them to find the person that God was leading them to. That's what they did. They spent a lot of time in prayer, seeking his direction, and He lead them to Chad. Whether we like it or not, it's not our decision.
We elected them, and the Lord lead them to Chad. Don't blame them. I know that every one of you agree that they are men and women who seek the Lord's direction, so why would they have chose someone that the Lord wasn't leading them to?
Face it. God is bringing Trinity down. He is tired of the division and bickering. Genesis 11 comes to mind. God did send Chad to Trinity. To spread His children to all parts of Desoto county.
okay this is the way I see it. This website was created for members to see the REAL truth about Chad Everson. People from the past two churches that he destroyed have told us events that took place to warn us. Now we Trinity members are telling what he is doing to destroy our church. So for you Chad followers- I am confused on why you get on this website unless you are starting to doubt your pastor? How would Chad feel to know his followers are on here- he might get worried that you'll learn the truth about him and leave too! Go to a Bible Believen Church that is being led by a True Man of God.
David Jett is not and was not the problem. David Jett wanted a contemporary Baptist Church. He wanted to take a traditional Baptist church and change it over night. I personally like contemporary music but understood that we have to minister to the needs of all members and should not just impose and force them into a type of worship that they hated. That to me is causing a brother to stumble. If God wanted us to be a contemporary church then He would have made us that way. Trinity is God's and it is His to mold us in the manor He wants. David Jett went to a church that was exactly what he wanted and is very happy there.
TO: April 19, 2011 10:42 PM and
April 19, 2011 10:45 PM
You have hit the nail on the head about Trinity.
I agree with everything you said, except the part that Chad has no fault in what is currently happening at Trinity. He is responsible for his own actions, deceptions (there have been some) and his treatment of people.
Bro. David Jett, no matter what anyone says, is a true man of God and he is exactly where the Lord wants him to be now. His church is vibrant, alive, on fire for God and his ministry is being greatly blessed. You can feel God's presence when you enter their doors. Bro. David is happy...he loves them and they love him...you can feel it. I believe God allowed him to begin his Senior Pastor ministry here at Trinity to season and strengthen him in dealing with difficult situations, then He blessed him with a church that was prepared for his godly leadership.
Trinity has long been a troubled congregation made up of people who have been through the fire of troubled church splits from which they have not recovered. They were too busy holding on to the hurt to follow Bro. David. God still gave us the interim time with Bro. John Mahony that could have been the healing time. Alas, that didn't happen leading to the present mess. I truly believe the PSC were charmed by Chad for a purpose.
In ways, Chad has been used by a group (not the PSC) who felt that Trinity needed to be ridded of the "troublemakers" and they knew Chad was "just mean enough to do it". That was a direct quote from one of those people, heard by myself and others.
Only problem is, some of the most disgruntled have left, but we 'threw out the baby with the bath water'. A lot of godly people have left to avoid the drama, deception and bickering. A troubled church is like a cancer...unhealthy cells spread to healthy cells.
I have long believed that God had a purpose in matching up Chad and Trinity. He is going to teach both a big lesson...watch for it.
Chad's ego, pride and arrogance have hurt his past churches and God is going to make or break him here.
Trinity has taken its focus off God and focused everything on the in-fighting, and God is going to get the focus back to Himself or will allow it to destroy itself.
The bad feelings that show up on this blog are proof that people are hurt and absorbed by the fight. Whatever happens at Trinity, God is in control and He is going to teach His lessons in His time.
My family is finished with Trinity! We don't want to be part of the destruction.
Easter is coming! We worship a Risen Savior! Our focus belongs on Him!
I totally agree with the comments about David Jett. He didn't want to CHANGE the whole church, he wanted to make 1 service different. Troublemakers did make calls to staff members and their wives threatening them. (A picture of how ugly some of the "long time members of Trinity were.)The reason this was even brought up, was it ushered in a season of discontent for TBC. There could have been great season of renewal and healing under Dr. Mahoney's sweet spirit, but it didn't happen for many. Even now this blog is filled with those who do not feel "led" to be at TBC anymore, but they refuse to move on. If you are attending somewhere else, join there and get busy for the Lord.
My Family left shortly after David Jett left. We are happily serving and growing in another church.
To 1:10
I must have lived in a bubble at Trinity I understood that there were people not happy with the service change. I also know it was because the senior adults were told that they would have to come to church about 8ish for a service with no choir and then Sunday School. I do remember that because I was in the meeting when that was said by Bro. David. I can understand the problem. But I never heard anything about threats and I never had a greeter tell me not to follow my pastor.
Bro. David has nothing to do with this mess. This is all about Chad who made messes at his past two churches and because he can't make a mends with them so his sin followed him here. I will also agree that we at Trinity must learn to obey the person that God put in charge and learn to trust. The problem is with the leadership here and Chad it will be hard to trust ever again. I pray God sends help to Trinity because it will soon be on the foreclosure list and sold for pennies on the dollar.
This is still about Chad and his lies and hateful attitude. He has taken the church down to only about 150 for the Lord's Supper last Sunday night. People better wake up it is almost too late.
Chad Call Daddy.
Help Help Help.........
Daddy was just up here in March. He is the one pushing all this junk.
Seen what the daddy did? Just go to thecultbuster.blogspot.com and see for yourself.
Now we know why it is.......
Like Father, Like son.
Thanks Mike.....
LaBelle Baptist may have the largest Sunday in history. I predict she will have a record number of new members. I also think that Sunday will be BLACK SUNDAY for Trinity. She will lose more members in one day. Many of us did not want to leave. We hoped that the leadership would step up and we have not been forced into this. It will be bittersweet we will be sad to leave but happy to finally be able to worship under a Godly Leader and hear the truth and not the truth according to Chad.
There was someone who wrote e-mails two years ago back and forth to Chad. I have copies of them and in them the person calling them self "Faithful Member" told Chad that he needed to stop screaming at us and to LOVE us. This person begged him to pray and listen. We the people of Trinity were just starting to get upset about his rants. The person also asked him to stop listening to Jimmy Hughes and others who just wanted to get even with some of the people here. All Chad wanted was for that person to come forward to face public church wide discipline. When FM refused to come forward he began to tell them that they were lost and it was their fault the church was having problems. He never one time said well maybe you could be correct. I do need to stop listening to gossip and find out the truth for myself. He just kept on jumping on people and yelling at us more and more. See a real man of God or not can admit that they could be wrong but you Chad are not a real man. So this is all your fault. Two years ago you had the choice to make a fresh start or continue in the way you did for the past two churches. In less than three years at Trinity you will have it in foreclosure. Great Job!
Chad could care less he is already looking for a new church home and will leave as soon as he can lie his way into another unsuspecting church. Hope they do better research than we did.
There were a lot of "Old Friends" who were "New Faces" at LaBelle last night. It looks like two of the largest classes left at Trinity may be leaving. I can remember when some people were upset when David Jett was here. He went to them and they together worked it out and those people were still at Trinity until last year. Chad will never go and work things out. He forgets that Matthew tells us to do more than to drag people before the church and vote them out. There are two other steps. First you go to them yourself and try to make a mends. If that does not work and you have been wronged or see that someone is in sin and it is not just gossip then you go again with a wittiness to show you tried to make it right. Then after you have exhausted all civil ways to bring a resolve then you bring it before the church. I have only seen this happen twice in my life and that was when I was growing up at Broadway Bapt. and a deacon was involved with another married lady. Chad just wants to parade people before him like a King does. When Bro. Jim had to do it with Bro.C. Both times the pastor was broken and devastated over these events. They were not happy times they were times of HURT. Chad it is going to get even harder. I look for 30+ people to join LaBelle Sunday and YOU could have prevented all of this. Happy NOW?
Oh, please, Daddy, find him a job in Georgia!..maybe teaching in a boot camp school!
CALF ROPE!!
Chad and Michele are worried. They have good cause to be. All this could have been avoided they just had to get to know us and learn from past mistakes. I am praying for them and the others in leadership. This is for me more than them.I have always heard you can't hate someone you are praying for. 3 churches destroyed and the common factor is Chad. Facts are Facts!
I hate that we had to make the decision to leave. I went to deacons who said they wished he would leave too and that we have made a big mistake. These men all know and wish but sit back and do nothing.
I just only hope that the building that we all sacrificed to build. The place many of us spent all our time at. It was a second home for years and we loved it. My children grew up, were saved, baptized, married and started a new life here. I only hope that it will again be used as a place of worship. We saw God move and work in lives. I remember the musicals that we had and how it brought everyone together. During this Easter season to remember the Passion Plays where 30 and 40 people would be saves and counseled. To see all the memories in my mind it breaks my heart for me to have to make this decision to leave. I really feel that if Chad is not sent away soon this will be the LAST Easter service as Trinity. I just pray that what was built as a place of worship will be bought by someone who will keep her as a place of worship. Good-Bye
There are deacons who are working on a plan for when everything falls. They won't get rid of him and correct the problems but will plan for a new church when it collapses.
I just hope that the poor NON-ELECT souls that pick Trinity to attend this Sunday will not have to hear a similar sermon that Chad delivered last year Easter Sunday. Shocking as it may sound but of all Biblical characters it was a message on JUDAS!! The good news is that Jesus (not Judas) has Risen and there is Victory for ALL. The tomb is empty!
Well, King Chad has delivered another of his diatribes in his Trinity blog this week on all us underlings celebrating Easter.
He's right about the commercialization of the "holiday", but the rest of his blog is hogwash!
I'm convinced he is anti-everything! In his zeal to be always right and piously radical, he misses the whole point.
Surely it is pleasing to Jesus that we celebrate his resurrection, realizing that without His loving, selfless death on the cross and His triumphant victory over death and the grave, this wonderful blessing of eternal life would not be ours!
Is there anything more worth celebrating about, worshipping about, smiling about, singing about, while loving each other, playing with our kids and families, and yes...even eating good food at grandma's house (read the blog to understand that statement)?
Yes, there are people who might attend church only on Easter Sunday, but isn't that what churches are there for...to lovingly welcome the "once a year lost folks"?
The seeds as supposed to be planted wherever we have the opportunity. If they are going to attend only once a year, isn't that the ideal day for them to observe what we as Christians are so excited about...the Risen Jesus!!?
Also, many of the visitors are born again Christians attending while visiting their families, which contributes to the larger-than-usual crowds.
Chad should be encouraging people to come in droves. It might keep the Trinity worship center from echoing from emptiness and put some life back into the place. Instead, he's again making fun of people who make the effort to go for whatever reason.
He's just more of the same...yada, yada, yada...just got to throw cold water on everything and criticize everyone except legalistic Calvinist/Reformed/9 Marks folks.
He missed a great opportunity to blog about the Risen Savior, but he just has to lecture us heathens!
Happy Easter and enjoy every moment of celebrating with your awesome, wonderful Savior!! Skip the Judas sermons and pack those other happy churches and worship with all your hearts.
Jesus Lives!!
Chad.
What part of Jesus died for the world do you not understand.
I'm certain the Easter message will be how there's no way the criminal on the cross could be in heaven because he didn't complete Paul's 25 point checklist to church membership and only said a repenting prayer.
I read the blog and one other thing Chad said that I agreed with was we should celebrate every Sunday with the same zeal. I totally agree with this statement if I thought he meant it. He never celebrated anything. Christian life is only gloomy to Chad. I have never heard him excited and happy over what Christ did for ALL of us. This will be the lowest attendance in Trinity Southaven history. I remember the first Easter service we had in our new Southaven location. Everyone worked hard to have her ready for all the people expected to come. We had been visiting in Memphis. We waited for the first service here to join. We have been through the ups and downs. We have seen happy and sad and mad times. This Sunday my family will be joining another church. This was something I really did not think I would be doing when Chad came but thanks to the lack of Godly leadership at Trinity we were forced to. I am happy about this and know after months of prayer and visiting that God has lead us to the church he wants us to serve Him in. I know Chad will blame all of us for the next business meeting when over 100 people have left but it is not our fault. It is not even Chad's fault. It is the deacons and committee members who could have stopped this a year ago and chose to stick their heads in the sand. And just like the foolish man who built his house on the sand, Trinity will too fall flat.
I hope Chad remembers to charge each of the visitors a dollar. That was what he said last year. If he does that then the church would get something from these LOST twice a year people. Chad's words not mine.
Only 7 empty parking spaces at LaBelle Haven today. The worship center was full. The only sound sweeter than the music was the sound of all the visitor cards being tore from the bulletin. Many friendly faces that were known from Trinity. A service about JESUS and how to live and not be a hypocrite. Then 22 new members joined today. Jesus was praised and was happy today.
I couldn't keep from thinking about Trinity this morning when Bro. Jim spoke of the crowd that wanted Jesus crucified. How at first they were praising him then how they changed and they went along with the others. They could have spoke up but instead they didn't. Sound like the deacons, staff members, and mostly us members at Trinity.
We are ALL guilty for not standing up for our church. Christ loves the church and look what we have allowed to happen to Trinity. I am excited to see what God is going to do at Bro. Jim's church. Wouldn't it me a true miracle if Labelle and Trinity joined together under Bro. Jim's leadership. Then we would see some real evangelizing going on. Just a thought???
Hallelujah! Many are praying for your church (LH) and expecting God to do a mighty work there. Trinity and all it's self-inflicted wounds are in the rearview mirror, and it's a blessed freedom!
The worship at our new church was marvelous, too...multiple services with a packed worship center for each. The Gospel was preached with love and wisdom and everyone went away blessed. It is a pleasure to be away from the tension and among happy, smiling, loving people with one purpose...to worship our Risen Lord Jesus and to thank him with grateful hearts for his love and sacrifice for us!
Let's all guard that unity with everything we have. We don't ever want to go through anything again like the last two+ years at Trinity.
Prayer is needed for all those who are still struggling to hold on there and that those who can do something about the situation will have their eyes opened and act before it is too late!
Yes 5:27 I totally agree with everything you said except one thing. Many of us did stand up and tried to talk to deacons and even head to head with King Chad and Queen Michele.
I too kept thinking about Trinity. As Bro. Jim talked about Judas I thought of Chad. He has sold Trinity to his 5 Marks cult for a few pieces of gold. Then we had the Pharisees and Sadducee's and those were in fact the deacons and staff. When Bro. Jim said in the book of John that the leaders even had their jobs threatened if they did not do as they were told that happened at Trinity as well. Chad is using his position and power that was foolishly given to him to bully and push us all around. But not me I am so glad to be in a church where "Everyone is someone and Jesus is LORD"
Today at Trinity was an OK service.Chad was civil for the most part. Tonight was another story. I guess he was trying to be good this morning and so tonight he had to explode. He started on the homosexual people. No where I DO NOT think what they do is right. I also feel that it IS a SIN, but I also believe that Christ died for them too. Chad informed the congregation of about 200 people that they were evil and basically so deprived that they would not be saved. He also said that you were lost if :
1. You did not attend church EVERY week. If you missed then check your salvation because you are probably Lost.
2. If you have had sex before marriage then you are probably LOST.
3. If you ever think or say a cuss word YOU ARE LOST!
To be honest the rest of the service was blah, blah, blah, LOST. Blah, blah, blah, LOST!
No where in the Bible does it say that gay people (where they are wrong) can't be saved from their lifestyle and sin, and can't be saved. No where does it say that you are lost if you have sex outside of marriage, yes it is wrong but forgivable. If you think or say things that we should not then well Chad is LOST he does it daily. From the pulpit. Who will stand up for the truth?
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Not sure which church you were at, but Chad didn't preach tonight. There was a wonderful Easter choir concert. If you are going to post lies (another sin), you may actually need to have a clue what you are talking about.
We visited DHBC today and so enjoyed it. At first I felt bad about boycotting TBC but we loved it. We knew after that last few Q & A Sunday nights that it was time to leave.Then a few weeks ago our BFG leader asked for us to give to have the churches insurance policy. I could not believe it had lapsed. Chad had been telling us that everything was fine. After the BFG and we gave more I walked downstairs and saw paid people sitting in offices in nursery area. I saw some in foyer and I saw books that Chad had bought and payed for to shove down our throats. The women are selling tee shirts to pay for Bible studies because we have been told there is no money. We still are seeing money blown all over the place for staff but the people who are digging in our pockets deeper and deeper are getting nothing.
As hard as it was to walk into another church today it was the best thing we could have done for our family. It was so good and I won't turn back. I feel freedom in Christ again. A-MEN
Anon 8:41:
I'm not sure where you were Sunday night, but I don't think you were at Trinity. We had a very blessed service and the only thing close to what was said about homosexuals was that our sin was no lighter than theirs. That Christ died for all of us.
Hope you wake up on the right side of the bed tomorrow. Use the cotton swabs to clean your ears too. Chad fan or not, I didn't hear what you heard...like at all... If you're going to post, don't make up things just to get a reaction. He didn't even address cussing, attending church every week, or sex before marriage?? I'm still not really sure why you posted all that??
Also, if that's what you got out of the service Sunday night, you really missed out. It was a great time of worship led by Jon and the whole worship team. I'm thankful I was there.
Well for thoses of you who were at Trinity you missed a blessing. The People at Labelle are friendly, caring, And now how to truely Worship God. When was the Last Time anyone felt Electricity in the Air before the Service At Trinity? For the Trinity folks who have been sucking down the Kool-aid it's called the Moving of the Holly Spirit.Bro. Jim's Message was wonderful as usual. And I know that 22 People Joined.The Choir sounded Like the Old Trinity Choir from Craft rd. It was such a nice relief to be in God's house With a man of God preaching and with the Holly Spirit moving. Also nice to see People baptized.. And the Just had to do Like Christ commanded to have Faith as a child,
To 12:48 AM
I was not there but I called two people who were there and they both confirmed that those things were discussed. Maybe the person who posted was listening more or was upset by what was said who knows? Maybe you like so many others have learned to tune his out and did not hear what was said. Who knows? But according to two other people who were there it was said and was not a lie. So please wake up on your right side of the bed and clean out your ears and maybe you too will hear what others hear from Chad. I am sure you enjoyed what ever you got out of the service. One by one people are starting to wake up. You may be next.
I was there and it was said . I am more concerned about the Sunday Schools taking up money for lapsed insurance policy's. We have already had a poor man hurt badly falling in the choir loft and still can't work. With all the children and people using the gym why are these not paid. Chad better stop hiring and start cutting and paying for what is important. He makes too much money for the few he preaches to and we have way too many staff.
The money is critical at Trinity. The people who can Won't and so she shall fall. I think that within a month Trinity will be shaken to the core. Chad's lack of the ability to deal with people as humans may have just gotten him and TBC into more trouble than she can get out of. All of this could have been avoided had the men of Trinity been MEN and not MICE. You gave him total control over the church and boy that was a BIG mistake. All you will be able to say is WHY? Chad will do as he did in Florida and will flee and leave Trinity to her doom. You have been warned leave while you can.
I wondered myself why the insurance had not been paid. I also wondered what else was not paid. I knew the women ministry sold shirts to buy the Bible study material. I just don't know what the deacons are waiting for. It is just getting so bad. Chad did say things about "Gay" people last night and he did speak. I don't understand the person who said he did not even speak. The music was OK just as OK as Jon is able to do with his limited ability. Worst Easter ever at Trinity.
the insurance did not lapse. It's just time to make the annual payment.
OK I am so glad that the policy had not lapsed. We MUST have liability. We have to be covered over any accidents. I still feel we have too many staff making way too much money and still have people sitting around in offices on Sunday mornings on the clock. There are ways to cut money and maybe the money paid to the 9 Marks people without a vote is the first cut.
"I called the SBC and they said we can't be both and that the SBC was NOT endorsing the 9 marks."
Mark Dever
9Marks at the SBC
I was told the same thing when I called the SBC. I was also told that if the church changed it would have had to have been voted on. I was also told that the SBC DID NOT support 9Marks. The person I spoke with(I did not write the person's name down) told me that 9 Marks stops just short of a CULT and the SBC is studding it.
We should have voted and we DID NOT! Chad just did it and hoped we would not find out. If he did this without a vote and he did then that is grounds for termination. It is also a misuse of tithes and offerings. When we can't pay the insurance Chad can justify paying 9 Marks?
I thought that Chad told the man who fell in the choir that we did not have any liability insurance. I don't believe Chad he has been caught in to many lies. I was also wondering about the man that is on staff to take care of the web site. We pay him and most of the pages on it are still blank. They say that they are working on them but it has said that for at least a year. You used to be able to listen to the sermons on line and now I have not been able to. I can't find the list of the deacons. It seems like a lot is being hid from us now.
My goodness.. if you'll click on the links you'll see that a) mark dever is described as an SBC pastor and b) the SBC IS featuring 9 marks...
Stop making up lies and at least be smart enough to recognize a live link when you see it. That means CLICK on it... And read further...
There should be a test for people to take before they're allowed to use the Internet.. It's more dangerous than driving for some!
That link does say that but when you call the SBC offices they say differently. And to 3:16 you need to seek council quickly you have become as hate-filled and arrogant as Chad and Michele. See the church takes on the character of the pastor. I just wish it were Godly and not so mean.
Thanks Chad or was this Jimmy?
I have looked up the 9 Marks and from what I have read I don't agree with all they said. But I don't know enough about them. All I have seen is what Chad has demonstrated and it is not very pretty. Giving them the benefit of the doubt maybe Chad has just perverted it as he has so much of what he has preached. Also if they are so welcomed by the Southern Baptist then WHY when you go to the 9 Marks site and look up churches in the area the only one is Trinity. Why is DeSoto Hills not in it? Longview Heights? 1St Baptist? Colonial Hills? LaBelle Haven? Boulevard Bapt.? Calvery Bapt.? None of the other churches have been enlightened? WHY? Does anyone have and answer as to why Chad is the only pastor who knows anything about all this wonderful information about how we have all been so wrong for so long and now Chad knows the TRUTH and the rest of us are just LOST. Why would the SBC even approve a group that says they have always been wrong? Chad says it so I guess it is true to. If you have the answer to all my questions please post them here and then call the other pastors whose churches are growing and tell them how wrong they have been too.
my goodness ... you are the dangerous one if you believe everything you read on the internet promoting ones values. Wise us, these guys will claim to be whatever it takes to get what they want. Try picking up the phone and calling SBC directly like the others and get the answer straight from them. Mark Denver is a Calvinist ... that’s fact and this has been dividing the SBC for years. So I believe they are not endorsing this and must be old inaccurate info you are reading. That is why Nark Denver lost at the SBC and there is an article on the web dated March 2011 regarding his church Capitol Hill Baptist on the rise of "new Calvinism." If it quacks like a duck .. its a duck.
What is so bad is that if this is what God wants His people would NOT be fighting over it. I find it hard to think ALL the people who are upset are lost. They are not! Lets look to who is shoving it down their throats and is causing the split it is CHAD. He is loving this. He is causing so much pain and hurt and you the ones who talk crazy to the hurt ones are part of the destruction. Chad will be gone soon. He will he knows something that you don't and I know it too. Chad has made such a mess and the church and HE will answer for it. I hope this time he will not just be able to flee the state to get out of it. Then you poor brainwashed child will be the one hurt. You will see. You will see!
Please O wise one... Tell us who you called at the SBC and what their name is so we can confirm this stance?
Or maybe you can't... Because you're making it up!
And don't say "you don't want to get them in trouble!"... Because if they're telling the truth and they really work for the SBC they wouldn't have any problem being honest with anyone that called...
Unless again... You're making it up!
Oh NOT wise one at 10:03 I did not write down the persons name ans NO it has nothing to do with them getting in trouble.I also said this at my post at 1:46 PM. Hummmmmm do you not read. There was another who also posted it here. I spoke with someone in the dept that handles programs at the location in Nashville. If you are so brave let me see YOUR NAME. I did speak with someone and they did say exactingly what I posted. If it were what the entire SBC was going to then why did Chad sneak and convert us? Why are we the only church that know this real way to salvation that goes beyond the Bible? The BIBLE says to ASK!!!!!!! Not go through a 4 week course that Chad and his "Sinless" BROTHER wrote do decide if they really got it.
Hmmm...looks like the SBC hasn't quite made up their minds if they promote 9Marks or not.
Below is a direct copy and paste from the 9Marks website about their participation at the June 9, SBC Convention in Phoenix:
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9Marks at 9 at the SBC
Phoenix, AZ | June 13th–14th 2011
9Marks at 9 at the Southern Baptist Convention
When:
Monday, June 13, 2011, 9pm
Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 9pm
Where:
Phoenix Convention Center (PCC), North Building
Rooms 120 C/D, Level 100
Speakers:
Monday, June 13: Mark Dever and Paige Patterson
Tuesday, June 14: Mark Dever, Danny Akin, Al Mohler, and David Platt
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So...what that's all about?
I personally have heard each of those speakers in person, with the exception of Dever (have listened to him on the 9Marks site). My impressions:
Paige Patterson: Yick...not an effective presenter of the Word...more about himself than anything.
Akin: Ok...sincere, but underwhelming.
Mohler: Ok...a little into himself, too...didn't know about his hyper-Calvinism at the time...nothing in his messages that would tip you off, but again, he was speaking in a conservative Baptist church at the time.
David Platt: Awesome! Dynamic preacher, who shows his love for the Lord and his heart for the lost in everything he says. He preaches that Jesus died for everyone...that God wants everyone to go to Heaven, but that some will not repent and accept Jesus' sacrifice and those will be the ones to suffer God's wrath....which it seems we all believe.
.....Just my own impressions.
All these associations and affiliations are totally baffling. For all their good intentions, they take the focus off the Lord and onto things man has come up with.
Mans actions are confusing, but what Jesus does is totally clear. We can trust Him and man really doesn't matter in light of eternity.
Eyes on Jesus....
To 10:03 You sure are a BLOW HARD for someone who won't post their name!! If you are so correct and so is King Chad then post your name!!!!Chad has done this underhanded and so therefore it must not be right. If it were then other churches would know about it and be doing the same. They are NOT because it is not RIGHT!!
Can the person who calling for all this proof show us the proof of why NO OTHER CHURCHES ARE FOLLOWING 9MARKS?????? Other pastors are saying no and the one from BBC even gave me a frown when I asked him last week. So give us the answers that you have since you are the Wise One Here.
So sad that Chad has been the one doing so wrong and he has now turned it into a war between members.
And we are to believe what the 9 Marks people are saying. They might lie as much as Chad. And you who love and have heard all the Calvinist speakers then woe to you. And I do believe this is Chad. The Father of lies is happy with Chad.
No not members this is Chad or Jimmy Hughes.
He will turn you in if you don't do what Chad wants..........
Anonymous said...
If 9marks is any thing close to what Chad Everson is then who would want any thing to do with it...
He is just plain "EVIL"...
Chad perverts everything why should this be anything different?
From what I just heard Trinity is headed for a lawsuit. Chad personally caused it and the person has a good case. I just hope Chad is named in it so that he will have to face the music.
I know what is going to be posted that it is wrong to take a fellow Christian to court. It is also just as wrong for a so called Christian pastor to do what he did. This is justified. the deacons should have done something about him months ago and this would have not happened. The can thank themselves.
Chad should have to face the music for what he did and not be able to run as he did in Florida when he hid the fact of a pedophile being on staff. He allowed him to still be working with teens and tried to blame the poor girl and her family. This is not that bad but he has probably pulled the straw that broke Trinity. AND WE PAID HIM TO DO IT!!!!
I think I know about this lawsuit. It is justified and all Chad's fault. I do hope that Chad is named and it doesn't just hurt the people of Trinity. We left and I am so glad. I hope they can get Chad out and Trinity will get in a Godly man who will lead without all the drama. Chad and his weird wife and friends are just so far out and crazy they all need to leave.
The crowds keep getting smaller and smaller. Many are waiting for Awannas to end. Several are waiting for the new BFG's to rotate so they can leave. There will be very few left. It is sad. No other church around is having the same problem. In fact they are having the opposite problem and they are having record crowds. Most from Trinity. Just SAD!
We have had a couple visiting DHBC and they teach children. They said that they were staying for the kids and were leaving in July when they change classes.
http://xmn.cc/resources/pastoral_resources/
look at the last resource... apparently our local SBC network thinks 9-marks is a good idea...
They recommend Blackaby too, which chad scoffs at.
9 Marks may not be all that bad on the surface, just like your dear Baptist faith, but if you have an egomaniac in control, no matter what their affiliation, they bring reproach to the whole organization. Therefore, you get what you get when you allow pharisees to run it.
Trinity and the Southern Baptist Convention suffer from the same disease, dysfunctional leadership.
From what I have found 9 Marks seems fine but Chad can't handle the evangelism and over kills the discipline. He really thinks he is a god or a king. Glad I left.
Anomymous said....
Even tho we all have known where Trinity was going..It seems like a "NIGHTMARE"...
If Chad had a decient "BONE" in his body he would just leave before Trinity goes into foreclosure...
Guess he's gotta keep the pay check comming. He has been taught real well...Good job DADDY "O"...
Chad has been looking for a person to bring before the church since he walked in.He told me in e-mails (that I still have) that Trinity would not ever heal and revival would never come unless someone came forward and repented to to church and was brought up for church discipline. He felt that for the church to understand him and fall under his rule and control we had to have this happen. I refused and and told him that I had done nothing that required a show of his power and strength. All I did was tell people what was being said about him on this site. He still has no idea who I am. He has falsely attacked people. He has claimed to have photos of me and never produced them. He went after a couple even after I told him he was wrong. He never even told them he was sorry for attacking them. Chad will not listen at all. If he can't open his ears and listen to anyone here why then do we think he would listen to God. Sometimes God shows us that we are wrong by almost the entire church leaving. All with basically the same reasons. Maybe he is not listening and it shows by no decisions. Chad wants to have the big church and the big pay but has no clue what it take to be a pastor.
I agree it has been a nightmare. One I am glad to be gone from. I do still check this site only because I have people I love that won't leave in hopes Chad will. I pray he does. More than that I pray that Chad will seek God and listen to Him and change his own heart. He has been at three churches that we know of and all three have imploded. He made bad choices and did bad things to people and until he comes clean and makes things right these past sins will keep following him and leaving broken and battered churches in the wake.
To: 1:28
Amen to every word you said!!
Someone loaned me the new choir CD. I must say that it is a true blessing. The choir did a wonderful job, and I hope many others will get a copy, because I plan to get my own now. It is terrible that those involved have such a God given talent and have to serve with such a man.
Jim you are so right. The choir CD is great. I am glad that a few people are still allowed to use the talents and gifts God has given them. I look back at all the people who Chad has removed being able to use the abilities that God has given them. We have singers and teachers who have been told "No Thank-you" from Chad after his snoopy wife spied on them and told Chad "They were not OUR TYPE of people". I am happy for just the few and at least Trinity has 1 thing that we can be proud of . One thing in 2&1/2 years, WOW. Glad Chad can take credit for something good and he will.
What are they raising the money from the sell of these CD's for? The payments on the building loan are behind and they have to beg for insurance payments in Sunday School. The women's ministry had to sell T-Shirts just to have the money for new Bible Studies. So what was this money designated for? Maybe for Chad's severance pay I know that is just wishful thinking.
A deacon's wife told me that several of the men have gone to Chad to plead for him to stop running people off. He has toned things down a little but there are so few left. Her husband said that "Chad just really thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong." He is so offended when anyone suggests that he is wrong. I have always heard from preachers all my life that as a wife if I can't follow my husband and listen to him then How can I think I would listen to God? That is the same here. As a church it has always been set up that the pastor is in charge but there are deacons (NOT elders that the preacher hand picks out to say YES to everything he demands) . These men are there to help the pastor and staff but to also help keep the preacher accountable. If Chad won't listen to any of the Godly men who have tried to talk to him then HOW CAN HE SAY HE LISTENS TO GOD???? He can't! Trinity has lost so many people and it is not over. There are no workers for VBS and no one who will even say yes to be a teacher or a deacon. Please all his good friends who look at this site and we know you do please just ask Chad to pray and seek God's will. Repent to all he has hurt at Trinity and the other churches. It is almost too late.
Two Weeks ago one of the men who is in charge of the morning attendance went back into the office for something. He saw the paper he had put down with the totals on it. Someone went behind him and added several hundred to the totals. He was upset and wrote the correct numbers back on the paper. He also added that if anyone needed to talk to him for them to call. We can't trust what the staff is reporting. They claim one number when it is much less. In attendance and in tithe. A church built on lies will fall.
We have known that they have been padding the numbers for a long time. If you have been in the choir like I am you would really see it. I have the same view Chad has and he does. it looks so empty now.
This is like watching a runaway train...you know it's going to crash...you just don't know when.
Leadership is the problem.
Leadership = Attitude, not just ability!
Leadership = Personal responsibility, not personal recognition
Leadership = To Serve (first by example and second by obedience to God's Word), not to dictate.
Leadership = Serving the best interests of the people, not the interest of self!
Good proven followers make good powerful leaders!
This is part of the problem with Chad. The only person he has ever had to follow in his spiritual life, or as an example of leadership, is his Dad.
Any wonder Chad is the man he is today? He learned at the knee of the Master of Mayhem!
Heaven help Trinity! There's no one left to defend her. The crash is coming.
Our church is a total disaster,brought on by a man that has already destroyed two churches and has now brought distruction upon this one. It is amazing how the deacons ( Chadetts and Chadites) have supported this destruction. These men will,one day stand before God and give account for the ruin they have allowed. Deacons, please try to look at this from God's view and not your own. Maybe when the head deacon's wife looses her job, he will get a different view of this devistation.
It is a shame that Christain people are fighting against other Christains. Chad may be proud of it, but I know God is unhappy with this.
Deacons, do your job. Stop this disruption in God's house. All of North Mississippi is look at this and shaking their heads. I pray daily that God will do something to stop the hurt.
Chad has played his blog site kinda quite lately. I did however find it funny that Monday's post was titled "Living Out Forgiveness" In this he used the following verses from God's Word.
Ephesians 4:32 “And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.”
Jeremiah 31:34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
He so wants us to forgive and forget. He wants to tell us what God's Word says, and it does. But the problem is with this that Chad seems to think the Bible is a "For us to do and NOT him". Chad when you learn to confess your sins and ask forgiveness. then Revival will happen! You must lead by example!
Chad is really telling us to be kind to everyone. PLEASE??The new post is about being happy in the death of Osama Bin Laden. He is showing more compassion for the feelings of his followers than he ever has to the people of Trinity. He now after hundreds of people have moved their letter in the past 4 months wants to show compassion? People have begged him to do this for 2 years. I am sick of hearing people saying "You just have to get to know him away from church, he is totally different". He should not be. He should show the same love for us as he does on the ball field. Maybe it is just the people that do the same sports he does. Maybe the senior adults should get out and play ball. Then Chad will like them. It is so bad to have a terrorist who has plotted and carried out such evil on our country and Christians everywhere receive more love from Chad than the members of his own church. I guess all evil sticks together.
Most of the sane people have left. Chad and the crazies are left.
It's pretty bad when you visit another well known church and the preacher himself calls Chad a Hyper-Calvinist! Hello, Trinity time to wake up. Trinity was built with a great man of Faith- Bro. Jim. Now it is being destroyed by a self-centered NOT (God Centered) Man. The way I see it Trinity Deacons needs to read in the Bible what a Deacon role and DO IT for once or Resign. I'm sure the widows of the church would be glad to give up a free lunch with them to see them be REAL MEN OF GOD and stand up to Chad and end this NOW! I have talked to many who have left and even after Chad is gone. They won't be back not with the current Staff MEMBERS and the Current Deacons. I'm sure there has to be some Deacons who want to stand up to Goliath (Chad) so we need to encourage them and help them find their 5 stones.
We need a David. We need someone who is man enough to say ENOUGH! We have plenty of women but Chad thinks they are beneath him and have no voice. The people will stay behind you. There are several classes that are all just waiting and hoping thinks will change. Please someone help us?
Chad just wrote on his blog that 25 families have now completed his intense 4 week new members sessions. We have lost hundreds in the last couple of months and had only about 60 join. Some of those are from last year who did not complete the new members classes. It is getting really bad and someone better do something. He also claimed that they had enough VBS workers, well that is not what the teachers are saying.
Have we not learned to not disagree with Cha he thinks he is the all mighty and no one is to disagree with what he claimes.
So true 6:22 He is still padding the numbers in the attendance. LIES ALL LIES!
Spoke to a lady who had been at Trinity and left just after Bro. Jim did. She asked me if I was still at Trinity. I told her I was still a member but was visiting. She had wondered because the church she had joined had gotten a bunch of TBC members joining. She said it was sad and her heart broke. She also added that the reason she left back when Bro. Jim did was because she had spoke to a member of the PSC that brought Bro. David. She was told that they were going to shake up Trinity. They wanted a man who would make us a contemporary church. So maybe all the problems started there. Maybe when people think they can change what God formed in the way He wanted then there's the problem. She left and was right in doing it. We still have many of these people causing the same problems and then there is Chad who thinks a church should be formed in Chad's image. Scary!
I am working VBS and I have no helpers. I have asked several people and I have had the response NO. Many have told me that they will be visiting other churches when school gets out. I don't know where he got that information from.
It sounds like Chad & The Boys are subscribing to the theory that "the ends justify the means".
If a little padding here and a little puffing there is necessary to make Trinity not look like the Titanic...then, so be it...right?
This captain won't go down with the ship, though. He'll pull his and his buddies' big salaries for as long as the faithful will continue to give, then when the money dries up and Trinity can no longer afford him, it'll be "Georgia, here I come!"
Pitifully, the ones who have held on will be the ones holding the bag. He'll be long gone and he won't look back. Then you will become the illustrations he'll use in future sermons to blame for the failure of his ministry in Mississippi!
Hang in there, folks, it's going to get better...and if you believe that, could we talk about some land I own down on the river?
Change can be good but Satan's bitterness has taken over Trinity.
The "troublemakers" ran Bro Jim off, and now they embrace his return at Labelle. They brought in David Jett to change the church to modern contemporary, and that went over like a lead balloon with the senior "troublemakers". Now they bring in Chad Everson who Matt introduced as a unanimous choice by those of all ages on the search committee. He is trying to change the church to a Reformed Presbyterian church. More change and still more "troublemakers". What can of change do we have in store when Chad leaves soon?
To 1050
It will become a MB church. Brown will pick it up out of foreclosure and God will then fill her up again every sunday.
It was not the PSC job to bring in a new pastor to make changes into a contemporary or anything else. It was for them to pray and let God decide what he wants.
Most of the people that have left Trinity and joined Labelle are not trouble makers. They are people that wanted to hear Gods word as it is written and not Chad's way of doing it his way.
If you people that are left would have listened to some of us that were there we tried to tell you.
Trinity use to belong to God now it belongs to Chad.
I have told you before to watch what he does with the money.
Yes, the troublemaker in the pulpit...and another man that we all know without naming his name.
He is so sickeningly eager to be Chad's sidekick that he has turned his back on and hurt many longtime friends in order to ride the royal coattail! There has been nothing spiritual involved, either. It's all about SELF and a pitiful need to be important.
You know who you are, sir, and you will be reaping what you have sown long after Chad has thrown you under the bus and headed back to Georgia. Hope it was worth it!
Hey, 3:53
That could apply to quite a few "men".
You'll have a bunch of them saying, "They talking about me?"
..and a bunch pointing the finger and saying, "You're the one"!
A bunch of "men" are riding the royal coattail and will be thrown under the same bus when the reign is over.
Won't come soon enough to save Trinity.
Anyone who does not agree with Chad is a troublemaker. Even the ones who have never opened their mouths. They just sat back and did not like what was going on and left. Those people are in the classification of TROUBLEMAKERS. I think the people who set out on the PSC to change Trinity into what they wanted caused the trouble.
Also I will name the name Jimmy Hughes. Yes Sir you sold your soul to Satan . Hope you enjoyed it. P.S. Jimmy don't come to LBH we don't want you.
One of the biggest troublemaking events to ever occur at Trinity was Chad's idea of rounding up his possee called "The Peacemakers".
We learned in elementary school that aligning folks against each other by having some tattle on others is troublemaking in its highest form. It never works and creates mistrust and intimidation where it never existed before.
None of that was about church discipline, either. It was all about taking names and tattling so Chad and Michelle could find out who was "for" and who was "against" them. They manipulated a group of well- intentioned people and used them for an evil purpose.
Wonder when Chad will realize that someone who sees a "troublemaker" behind every bush, has a problem himself...paranoia.
Looking back, if Chad had wanted to avoid trouble, the first thing he could have tried was loving Trinity instead of viewing it as a group to be conquered and bullied. He listened to people, whose motives he never questioned. Yep, doing that is participating in that awful thing, gossip!
He is arrogant instead of humble.
He is secretive instead of open.
He is impatient insead of patient.
He is unkind instead of kind.
He is fiery instead of humble.
He is dictator instead of Pastor.
He is a destroyer of churches instead of a builder of churches.
He is Reformed instead of Southern Baptist, which we believed him to be.
Most people will joyfully follow a worthy leader, but resist a dictator.
Those were exactly the same problems in Byron,GA and Starke, FL. It doesn't work a bit better in Mississippi.
You can't fake it, if you don't have it! How many churches will he destroy before he learns?
CHADISIAM....SOUTHAVENS NEWEST RELIGION.
No need to be concerned with your salvation. It's already been chosen. Live the way you want to.
You might go to heaven.
You might go to hell.
The Chadaholics are still supporting this destructive religion.
Not destructive you say????
Here are "NINE MARKS" you can identify.
1. Three Churches noe destroyed.
2. Deacons with no backbone.
3.Christains backbiting one another.
4.No money for Church operation.
5.Members scattered and gone.
6.False figures to make things look
bright. Lies Lies Lies
7.No movement at the altar.
8.Sunday School teachers leaving.
9.No soul stirring messages. Just big word Chadisiams.
Truly the real nine marks.and more could be added.
Deacons,Please become concerned for our Church and not your personal feelings. As of now you are the biggest part of the problem
GET THIS EVIL ONE OUT OF SOUTHAVEN
I would like to thank the two people from a local church here in Southaven. My family just moved here and we visited a church last Sunday. We enjoyed it and when the 2 men came Tuesday night to visit us we told them that we were going to visit a few churches before we joined anywhere. I mentioned Trinity. They both frowned and just told me to google Trinity with the pastors name. I did and Minister Watch came up. I have been reading and now I know where my family will not visit. The men did not bash the church they just told me to do my research. I did! Thanks
Oh My Chad is so at it again. His blog site is all about how all the churches in the "Bible Belt" and how we are fighting for the new and correct way of running a church. He claims it is because we are just used to the way or "Folks" of the past preached and will not change for the correct way. That is why our churches are so unhealthy. He says that the churches in the far west and the ones up north are embracing the correct way to do church and it is just because we refuse to do things differently than our old preachers and grandparents did. That is just to use a phrase from a local preacher "Hog Wash and Slop"!
This was what he posted.
“Why do you have such doctrinal churches and preachers in areas like California, Minnesota, Washington D.C., but men like this pastor in Bible Belt go through such difficulty when they preach doctrinal truth?” Great Question! I think the answer lies in the title of this blog…Folk Theology. We have had the opportunity to discuss this a little bit in our Men’s Fraternity Class on Thursdays, but in short, Folk Theology is not a biblical theology but a theology that has been handed down from Paw Paw, Maw Maw, Dad, Mom or their favorite preacher.
You can tell people who have been strongly influenced by “Folk Theology” because they are the ones who “know it is in the Bible, but just can’t find it.” They will tell you what Baptist people believe, but refuse to discuss Scripture. You tend to see more of this in our area of the country because all of us have been taught some form of Folk Theology - the question is, have we found it to be Scriptural or familial?
I think the biggest problem is that Chad has been to much influenced by his father. A man who has just like Chad destroyed churches. Hurt people and just moved on to another after he was finished. this is just another one of his lets bash Baptist and the people who don't follow him. Follow GOD not Chad!
All Chad can do is say that the men that preach in a Calvinist manor are right and are real men of God. That is so not true. I had pastors growing up that were true men of God. They did not yell and scream at me and they told the word of God. Not a watered down version and did not care if they stepped on toes. They also treated the people like people and not property like Chad does. He honestly thinks that when the church voted him and gave him all the enormous pay and power that he also owned the people. That was just not true. Chad you are a NUT.
Chad and Michele are back on the prowl for people not talking upbeat about Chad. She is out spying on every conversation and BFG classes. They have run of all the people they claim were Drama and so now they are looking for new ones. They still believe they MUST put someone before the church for discipline before the church can really have revival.Better watch out they will not stop on their own and no one will stop them.
God loves everyone. But he preferes "Fruits of the spirit" but, not "Religious nuts"
To: 4:05p.m.
Michelle and Chad should be the ones brought before the Church for Church discipline. But it is not going to start a revival just a lot of rejoiceing and praising God for getting them out of Southaven..
The both of them are just pathetic.God is still on his throne and he will take care of them for all the hurt and damage that they have brought on Trinity. I believe in my heart they will be punished by our God....Then they will truly know what discipline is all about....
A-Men 7:57
What is worse than Chad and Michele are the fools that have allowed all this nightmare to continue. They too will answer. I am so happy that God brought a REAL man of God back to heal the beaten and bullied people of God.
I think the owner of this blog has moved on like so many other problem people glad to see the people have wised up and understand just how much they were wrong. Whatever the reason I am glad it has finally stopped.
Don't be too happy, because this site is not dead.
Thanks for thinking we are problem people though, because it takes duds like you and the lacking leadership at Trinity and MSBC to allow monsters like these guys to exist and tear up people and churches. I think Jesus called them VIPERS.
This so called "pastor" is on the prowl again, the truth must march on so his next victims are warned just as Trinity was.
Until he retires from the ministry or he apologizes to those he has hurt, nothing stops.
Yea Right!! It is over and Chad won! Move on now children.
Chad dream on this site is not dead and will not be untill you are on your way out.
Go ahead and cut some more hours,and cut every one's pay
but yours.
The god that I serve will take his time and punish you.You act as if you do not belive that he will but he will in his on time.......
To: Happy For Chad
Don't get too happy or hurt your face grinning, because no one has given up on anything. We,unlike you who are blinded by Chad, see clearly what the man is and what needs to be done.
However we do have other things to do and the blog administrator obviously does not have 24/7 to spend reading and clearing posts.
However, be assured that those of us, who post on here, are doing it for one reason...to make sure future potentially victim churches will have more information on which to base their vote than we at Trinity had.
They need to know the story Chad will tell about "the one crazy person who is out to get my family" and the reality that there are many people...not just one... who have personal experience with Chad, have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, and have tried to give him a third chance to repent and change his actions. We have painfully learned that he is a power/money/control hungry egomaniac dictator, who is willing to destroy churches in order to be in total control and to be able to push his non-Southern Baptist agenda and beliefs.
By his own words, he shows that he detests the Baptist faith. One would think he would leave Baptist churches alone and go full steam ahead with his version of a correct denomination. Why hijack Southern Baptist churches? One answer..monetary gain.
If a church already has a large membership, property already under ownership, all legal paperwork already in place, little enough intelligence to start him at an obscene salary, it's easier to hijack that one than to go plant a church and build it around his "new and improved" doctrine. Surely 9Marks could help?
As long as he is able to continue the "one crazy man" tale, other churches may be destroyed the same way the ones at Byron, Starke and Southaven have been.
That is our purpose. It's not a game with Chad to gossip and spout out one more "gotcha". This is serious business with serious ramifications.
I, personally, would like nothing more than to forget Chad Everson exists, but he's a big part of one of the most dissapointing spiritual experiences of my life and I feel a responsibility to be one of the thorns in his side until he either repents and changes his ways or realizes that the ministry may not be for him.
He is not a pastor!! His prideful, arrogant personality will not allow him to be. That's fact and many, many people who have been left in his wake can verify that!
Sorry your "happy" is all for naught. Please open your eyes!
Chad has destroyed lives and will answer for it. Thank the good Lord for Bro. Jim. He is a real man of God and not just one of Chad's Folk Preachers.
Those left at Trinity are as arrogant as him. They were made for each other. He'll convince them to sell out, get a smaller church and live happily ever after. There's no way they can continue on the current budget receipts. If he doesn't take a pay cut there will be noone left. Good luck with that.
He's Back blogging!
www.dougpittman.com
To 5/20 2:06pm
Maybe in your sick twisted mind its a game, but I don't think Jesus would consider hurting people, lying, and bullying people is a game someone could "win" at like you say. Chad may have "won" in your eyes, but he hasn't in God's eyes and will have to answer for it one day. He has lied about me in a meeting with others while I was not present all for his control and power. As an obedient servant of God and choosing to follow Him and not man, I let it go until I had to make the hard decision to leave it all behind. Chad, you have not won and its time for you to "move on."
Former TBC Member
this site it dead. why are there no new posts? Where's the new information about Chad's education?
There's nothing new! Just move on...
I haven't been in this site since I posted back in March... I have been reading for almost 3 hours now(should be sleeping) I have cried 3 times and my chest is physically hurting because of the sorrow I feel for what is going on there...no church is perfect and yes Trinity had had it's deception before... But to here people who were not directly affected by it it even as visitor at the time any of those events happened to so callously and nonchalantly refer to these events and what they did to the church body as a whole... I was a very young child when the events about Bro CB happened. My father and mother called all the children into their room and told us before school so we could deal with it as a family... I remember crying for hours on my Dads pillow!! And to think that one if the ministers that " one of those 50" just passed away... Compassion please...
I pass by Trinity several times a day... And each time my heart breaks a little more... So many memories of my life involve the family I had there and that building!!
Growing up was in that church for me... I remember playing in the bridal room that was connected to the women's bathroom with several other girls and talking about the day we would be in there getting ready for our weddings...
It never crossed my mind that I would marry anywhere other than it that church... And I was told that I was NOT ALLOWED TO MARRY THERE?
But it's ok... In less than two weeks I will get ready in a room at a bed and breakfast and walk down the grass aisle with my loving father at my side to a MAN that God has chosen for me and a GOD fearing preacher who is the one who showed me how to follow Christ
He baptized me at Trinity and we will marry me in the beauty of God's creation outside...
But do u know what the best part of the whole thing is?
My heart will mend with God's help and I can say now that I forgive Chad and Michele for what they did to me because had they not, I may have not had the opportunity to see what God has in store for me with my new church family at LBHC...
I have seen several people mention new faces and old faces of Trinity when referring to LBHC but thing is... We don't see it that way
We are all just a family if believers no matter where you came from...
Everyone embraces everyone and no one could tell that you may have only know each other a few months, weeks, days or even hours...
Everyone geniuely cares about each other as if they have know each other for decades
The love they have shown me since Nov has been breathtaking at times... This morning was no exception, I was overwhelmed by the excitement everyone had for my upcoming marriage and my recent college graduation..
I guess the point of my rambling is... Go and fond Gods love again ...
Yes it's hard it took me over a year to have the courage and faith just to visit other churches after Trinity and 2 months of prayer to join somewhere else... But God has a plan, you just have to let go of the pain to let God start the healing process
I said earlier I have forgiven Chad and Michele for what they did to me, but I'm still praying for them and for myself... I take what they are doing to the family I knew for 17 years as a whole more personally than what they did to me on an individual basis...
I pray that God will move a church into that structure that will return it to a place a comfort, sanctuary, joy, and a testimony of Gods love like it once was for me
Your sister-in-Christ
Paige Nicole Hanson
***soon to be Paige Sundquist***:)
Oh Paige my heart breaks just as yours does. I really never thought I would have to be forced into the decision to leave Trinity. I pass her several times a week and I always remember that there was always cars and people there. No matter what time of day or night. We had people praying in the prayer room 24 hours a day. No only a few hours are taken. It is so sad and it hurts. This past weekend at the A fair I ran into many people who are still there and most of them I had known for 20 years but some looked at me as if I had the plague. I had refused to embrace Chad and Michele and like the others I was just a troublemaker. Many of these people I served with in VBS and choir some taught my children and I taught theirs. We were family and friends once but now they view me as the enemy. This is not God's will and if that is Chad's then he is WRONG.
to 12:14
Don't feel bad or hurt any longer. As stated earlier, the majority of those still there are as arrogant and conceited as Chad and Michelle. The feel they are the "elect", and you are not, because you wouldn't follow the Gospel of Chad. Rejoice in the Lord with your new church family and let them have their failing church.
You know I could not access the video that Chad was referring to on his blog I did try at different times and on different computers so I did not not understand his rants and rambles. I did get the guest that he was upset because a church gave money to the people that attended a certain service. Without being able to see and know why they did it I find it hard to make a judgment or call it "Crap" as Chad did on the blog.
I would like to remind Chad that when he came and Michele took over the women's ministry from the very capable ladies who had been doing an awesome job, she did the same thing. See she did a message on serving others and gave out envelopes with $$$$Cash$$$$ in them. She then told us to go out and find some one to bless with it. (I think it was $5.00.) No one thought it was foolish nor did anyone call it "CRAP" but I will say that you MUST now call her before the church for some of that discipline you LOVE so much. It is only right when you blast others for doing the same thing???? I have heard of churches doing many things to get people in to hear the Gospel. Stop being the "Almighty" that you think you are. If one person got saved it was so worth the cost. We used to have massive musicals and it was hard work and took months of planning and when we heard that people were saved (and many are still in church at Trinity) it was worth everything.
You need to stop judging others and start worrying about the mess you have made at Trinity and in your own life!
To 12:17 That is right she did do that. I think it was a little more than five dollars but nevertheless she did the same thing. He will never say she was wrong so I think it will be different some how. Once liars always liars.
Chad might just have to resort to paying people to come. No one wants to come on their own. I have heard that Mothers Day out is going to increase to 3 days a week next year. The extra money used to be used to purchase things for nursery and preschool. All the 6 person strollers and most of the supplies were bought from MDO money. Now they have to turn over the money to Chad to help him keep his BIG paycheck. SAD!! It won't be much longer Trinity.
Oh Please Princess Michele and King Chad can do anything and it is OK with the fools at Trinity.
What reasons are C & M giving for the mass exodus of longtime members and the poor attendance and participation?
How long will the "head in the sand" routine work?
It's the age old trick that politicians and other deceivers use...pretend everything is wonderful, blame every problem on others and keep smiling and putting out the "all is well in la-la land" babble.
If this "pastor" is so wonderful, then why would anyone want to leave?? He's just playing the rest of you for whatever he can get out of you until the whole place implodes from the load of debt or a better deal comes along.
Looks more like Washington, D.C. every day! The one difference is...with the government, we have no choice, but the church you attend is between you and God, not you and some man with motives.
The ones who have seen the truth and left are very relieved, but still feel sorry for those who are holding on and hanging in for whatever reasons. In any case, you are the ones who are going to take the heaviest blows when this whole house of cards collapses. You will be left with the debt, the wrecked reputation in the community and the most disappointment!
You still have a chance to save your church...or do you even care anymore? The heart has gone out of the place and there's nothing left but an echoing, empty shell full of unhappy people. There is no one who could say they are truly happy there. Everyone is just waiting to see what happens, then they'll leave if they have to. Sad...and where is the glory in that for the Lord?
The only thing going on at Trinity is the VBS called PandaMania when it should say pandemonium. That is what is going on at Trinity. He claims that the people who have left were troublemakers and people who should be prayed for because some of the are running from God. He claims that we are having trouble with what God has been doing at Trinity and are not saved. They should be prayed for because they are probably LOST. So if you left you are either a troublemaker or LOST. Many of the people are shocked to hear this and are believing him and praying for souls that are not lost. At some point they will see that he has just played them for fools.
A meeting was held a couple of weeks ago to vote on what to do with a large sum of money left over from hurricane Katrina. The church voted many years before Chad came or Bro. David came to make Trinity a Red Cross Shelter. This does not make Chad happy. See the church has to let in sinners to invade the church. They are not poor people who have just gone through a nightmare and probably lost everything but the are riff raff that Chad and Michele don't want at Trinity.
When Hurricane Katrina happened we had the JOY and it was joy to help about 30-40 PEOPLE, Things were purchased and money was given. Why that money was not turned over to the Red Cross after the people left we did not know. SO a couple of weeks ago a vote was taken on what to do with it. Many wanted it to go towards payroll BUT they were outvoted and it was determined it would now go to the flood victims. We don't know how this will take palce and to be honest we want to make sure it does. Please someone tell us if the money was turned over to the red cross or how it was given. I think Chad will claim it went into his pocket to recover from the flood of members who have fled the toxic waters that Chad has created at Trinity. I think I would rather have the waters from the mighty Mississippi than Chad's septic waters he spews daily.
"a large sum of money" How much was it?
Over 70k went missing at his first church.
The man that led the team that brought Chad to his big payday is now leaving. Another long time member instrumental in building the now ghost town of Trinity, gone. I guess he and his wife are lost too. If it weren't for him, you'd probably be filing papers for daddy in GA, Chad. Count your blessings, while you can. I'm sure you'll have a reason for this departure too.
Congrats and a tip of the hat to the chairman of the deacons, TIM WYATT. I don't know of a better man at TBC that could have supported the downfall and destruction of TBS. He has done an excellent job of running off good Christain people(not according to Chad) and now the loss of one of the best Sunday School teacher around.(MATT WADDELL) Oh yes, Tim had some help doing this. Peaple like Johnny O, Jimmy H, Jim B and lots of other Chadaholics.
Tim was elected to watch over the church and support the body of the church. But instead, he drank the cool aid and became one of the Chadetts. I wonder how you can sleep at nite? After two churches were destroyed by this "PREACHER", the deacons continued to support the CHADISIAM put out by this man.
What a shame and a pitty that all this has happened to God's house. Tim, you will stand before God and be held accountable for your "So what, and I don't care attitude. If this post offends you, I am truly sorry. But as Chad would say."GET OVER IT"
Amen to that from one of the ones that chad said is lost.
Well hopefully after Trinity closes, God can use that wonderful building again for his honor and Glory. Maybe a Good church with a man of God in the Pulpit can buy it. I wonder if any church is interested in Moving to Southaven/Olive Branch area? Maybe Bro. Jim might know of a church that is interested in moving from Shelby county? Chad your Lies are starting to mock You and the lies you told that People said are starting to be revealed. Still praising Him in this storm FSM
Regarding the money from Katrina.. A) in 2005 trinity was not a red cross shelter and never has been. That money was given by members and actually was for rebuilding on the coast and not the church run shelter. Trinity finished rebuilding projects in 06 and it was left over.( Trinity had over a 100 people staying at Trinity and in 08 40 people stayed again. B) the money left over was never considered for anything besides missions and was actually reappointed to assit tornado victims in the mid south and other disasters that come up. Please get your facts straight. While your complaining about how you thought the money was attempting to be misused trinity is asking over and over to get people on board to assist the community with it. Two teams were in Smithville twice since the tornado hit.
To 11:17 you are so mistaken we did vote when Bro. Austin was here and Bro. Jim was still pastor and we voted to make the church a red cross shelter in times of emergencies. The red cross came in and we had many people helped. The money may be from the people wen went to help but regardless I still don't believe they will do the right thing with the money.
I was at Trinity for 4 and a half years and when I heard him preach the first time I knew it was the end. I started bringing ear plugs. He obviously got his style of preaching by modeling preachers that do revivals. His style is too intense for a weekly service. All of the shouting, guilt based sermons and repeating himself is hard to hear every week. He preached the same sermon for the first two months he was there. I couldn't believe he didn't get canned for that alone.
My wife sized him up very quickly a control freak, power hungry, manipulative, and a bully. He came and said that he would not change what was going on before he got there and proceeded to run off Rod and other staffers. He lied about several things not least of which had to do with him not being a Calvinist. The church was vibrant and growing before he was there, even with substitute pastors.
I don't know if anyone else remembers but when he got the "call" only %80 voted for him. In most situations the pastor will not accept the call unless %90 or more vote him in. Chad and his wife couldn't resist such a ridiculously large salary. He is everything that he preaches against. Also, the search committee only gave the church one candidate to chose from. Normally at least 3 candidates would be presented if I'm not mistaken.
I used to think people eventually got what they deserved (which is to get fired in his case) but I think he will probably just move on to the next church, probably making more money. No one has the guts to say anything to him. Very sad for the good (non paid) folks still there.
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