The following post is from a current member at Trinity Baptist in Southaven.
My dearest fellow Trinity members,
I am going to write to you because there are some things I feel you should know. Some of this you may know and some you may not, but I think this information may make some of the things we are seeing make more sense. I am not going to print opinions, unreliable information, or hearsay; I only want to give you the facts, although I will give you some of the conclusions I have drawn at the end. The following information comes straight from Chad Everson’s resume, and you can verify by following the links included at the end of this post.
Chad does not have a legitimate doctorate degree, nor is his master’s degree from a notable, accredited institution. As we all know, Chad does not have a problem talking about his time at Mid-America Seminary. It gives him credibility because MABTS is well regarded, especially in our area, because it is so close. He threw it around quite a bit when he came in view of a call because Dr. Mahony was there. He did not graduate from MABTS, though. He finished his “education” at Andersonville Baptist Seminary.
Why is this important? A Master’s of Divinity (the traditional program for those who want to pastor) at MABTS requires 88 semester hours, which is 30 classes and generally takes 3 years or longer to complete. The Master’s of Theology degree from Andersonville only requires 30 semester hours, which is only 10 classes and, according to Andersonville’s website, can be completed in as little as 12 months. What does that mean? It means that our pastor has less education than most of the rest of our staff, and I use “most” only because I don’t know Jon Rushing’s educational background. The major Southern Baptist seminaries don’t even recognize degrees or coursework from Andersonville.
The “Doctor of Ministry” degree from Lake Charles Bible College is no better: mail in a few hundred dollars, read and complete 5 workbooks, and anyone can have this degree. It is basically a diploma mill. What does MABTS require to receive a doctorate? A Master’s from an accredited institution with no lower than a “B” average, 2 years of ministry experience, and 32 doctoral level hours, including a major ministry project, seminars, and a final major exam. It also takes generally THREE YEARS to complete this program. Even the application process is difficult – it takes the doctoral committee 60 days to review applications to the program, whereas Lake Charles’ website states that you “can even start the day you apply.” Getting a real doctorate is NOT easy – talk to anyone who has done it or attempted it. It is so intense, many pastors have to take a sabbatical from their churches to finish it, and I have even met some ministers who have nearly lost their families due to the time consuming nature of the program. Calling yourself a doctor of anything with a “degree” like Chad’s this is a true slap in the face to anyone who actually put in the time and effort to really earn theirs. Would you let your open heart surgery be performed by a doctor who bought their doctor’s degree and put in little time or effort? I didn’t think so; neither would I. Why do we expect any less from one who we trust with our church’s spiritual health?
For those of you who were here when Bro. Jim was presented in view of a call 20 years ago: Do you remember the big stink created about his doctorate obtained through Luther Rice Seminary? Do you remember Dr. Skinner being so upset by the lack of requirements needed to graduate from LRS? This is so much worse. At least LRS requires that you actually do real work, even if it is by correspondence.
MABTS Master of Divinity: http://www.mabts.edu/templates/System/details.asp?id=23267&PID=69474
Andersonville Master of Theology: http://www.andersonvilleseminary.com/pdf/ThM.pdf
MABTS Doctor of Ministry: http://www.mabts.edu/templates/System/details.asp?id=23267&PID=69482
Lake Charles Bible College Doctor of Ministry: http://www.lakecharlesbiblecollege.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34:doctorofministry&catid=14:doctors&Itemid=9
My conclusions:
Why is this relevant? Why does this bother me, and why should it bother you? Because we have a pastor who is passing himself off as something he is not. THAT is a fundamental problem with anyone, but this is inexcusable for a pastor. Transparency of a pastor should not be optional! How can a pastor expect to build relationships with his church if he isn’t real? He never said that he did graduate from Mid-America, but he conveniently leaves out where he did finish. You can check this for yourself. Check out his personally posted profiles at http://bigsight.org/chad_everson , https://www.xing.com/profile/Chad_Everson , http://www.ziki.com/en/chad-everson+132964 , http://www.linkedin.com/in/chadaeverson , and so on.
If he is so proud of his time at Mid-America and lists it under “education”, why purposefully leave out Andersonville and Lake Charles? Because Chad knows that other pastors know the reputation of those “institutions,” and it will defeat the purpose. Why else would someone want to obtain a doctorate and not tell everyone where it came from? It is interesting that the very thing he has used to try give himself credibility, in my opinion, has discredited him in the deceptive way he has gone about it. And, while we’re at it, am I the only one who has a problem with a pastor promoting himself on these professional sites? What is the purpose? Shouldn’t promoting the cause of Christ be more important than promoting ourselves?
And why is it okay to take the “short route” with your “education?” Just to call yourself a doctor? Just to have the prestige and recognition? When does a pastor, above anyone, need to promote himself? Isn’t it his job to promote the Lord Jesus, not himself? Aren’t you only cheating yourself out of a proper education just to get a few letters to tack onto the beginning of your name? Aren’t you cheating your churches out of the knowledge and insight you would have gained by obtaining a real degree? And if a pastor is willing to take the “short route” to a degree, in what else is he willing to take a short cut?
I love you, Trinity! Remember to be like Peter. Keep your eyes fixed on Christ and not the crashing waves around you, and by all means, don’t sink!!
Trinity Member
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OK PSC you wanted a lie well if he infered any of this HE LIED!!!! And he is also bringing in staff members and said that the PSC and personel committee gave him this power. He can hire anyone and it does not matter what we say. Well I also like many others your pay goes with your education so we will be better with chad making min. wage based on his education.
This was posted months ago concerning these fakes and their NON DR degrees.
Like father, Like SONS!
I read where daddie Mikey was caught lying in the Christian Index too saying he had graduated from 3 colleges until Doug exposed him.
What I don't understand is, why didn't the PSC catch this, or did they just not care? I mean, we were all given this information when it was printed in the bulletin the Sunday we voted, but who of us thought we would need to check it out? We only had it for a few hours before we voted - the PSC must have had it for weeks!! I don't get it.
The PSC believed his lies. It's that simple. Now, my question is do they still stand behind him and their decision? How devastating to find out that such an imposter is our so-called leader!
As long as churches continue to give deference to leaders with "Doctor" attached to their names, insecure, unscrupulous men will continue to find short cuts to that title. Unless a pastor has undergone at least two years of intense classroom study, written a thesis or complied a D.Min. Project, his "Doctor's Degree" is not worth the paper it is written on, and his theological depth has not increased. However, his spiritual condition will have become increasingly damaged and his sense of humility will have all but disappeared. Church members, you are the problem...you just love to call your pastor "Dr." Why is that?
You give me a man of God with the heart of God and who loved and cares for the people he serves over a Dr. degree anyday. We have got to also check out the persons background and talk to people who have been in his church. Had this been done we would have seen the red flags. No one ever gives names of people for refrences who will say what they don't want known. You must look at everything and in between the lines. This man has already cost us so much. Membership, Teachers, Workers and the thing most close to his heart MONEY. We must stop just going along with what he says we have a vote so vote NO.
This is a sad day... We as Christians should be helping each other instead of tearing each other down. If you spent the same about of time sharing the Gospel with people then you spend tearing people down there would be more people in the kingdom. I'm just disgusted with this :( No wonder people do not want to be Christians. You have more drama in the faith than in the world. Good luck with this mess.
Wellduh,
I do want you to know that you are in part correct.But if Chad had come into Trinity and treated people with the same niceness that he wants given to him NONE of this would have happened. No one would have even looked and those who did would have not believed it. There are so many at TBC who are not happy with the way Chad has yelled and acted so non-pastor like that they have looked and believed. Chad has made the case for these sites.
Also with the way he is so hate-filled in his speech why would people want the "JOY" he has. He has said so many times the word LOST and I have heard about the LOVE of Christ very few times. Don't just blame us with out fuel there would be no flames.
If I gave false information to obtain my job I would be fired as well as have possible charges filed on me. Why is he and others O.K. with his behavior. A Lie is a Lie!
God says in his word that sin is sin and it is ALL wrong. It does not exclude Preachers.
There is always a red flag when you ask something of someone and receive anger.That usually means guilt or something to hide.
I enjoyed church this morning!! The music was excellent. The choir sounded so good! Bro John has an excellent voice and it's obvious that He walks with Christ.
David Miller also had an excellent message.
I was able to truly worship this morning!!
It was so nice to hear a wonderful Godly message from a Godly man who walks the walk that he talks the talk and I felt the Lord's spirit for the first time in a long time.
I needed that not because I was lost but because I needed to worship in a spirit of Love.
I just wish we had harmony back at Trinity. I can remember when all we had to worry about was lack of parking and lack of rooms. Well the only thing that has changed is leadership and he fixed those problems. Now we have plenty of both.I just wish that our hopes had come true when we looked so forward to Bro. Chad comming and all we had prayed for looked like would happen. I feel that he was overtaken in the move up here by an evil spirit cause he is not the same or he was a GREAT Actor.
If casual Christian Ministers can lower the expectations on their leadership, they (the leadership) will be much more comfortable with their own sin.
With lower moral standards, the church leadership will become more tolerant of leaderships sin and less tolerant of holiness.
The "sinner-friendly" church is intolerable to God--that is a frightening condition.
Conservative Christians have for most of the previous century focused on the battle for doctrinal purity. And that is good.
But we are losing the battle for moral purity.
Some of the worst defeats have occurred among our more visible leaders. The church cannot lower the standard to accommodate them!
Again I say, The church cannot lower the standard to accommodate them!
We should hold it higher so we can regain purity. If we lose here, we have utterly failed, no matter how orthodox our confession of faith.
We can't win if we compromise the biblical standard of moral purity.
Do not judge,but do hold these men accountable.....I do.
Need I say more?
Anon. Oct. 17, 1:51 PM, I'm afraid you may have misunderstood. I am not advocating a less well educated clergy; that creates another set of problems. I am saying churches insist on having a pastor with the title "Dr.", they must insure pastoral candidates actually possess "real" degrees, not just titles purchased from diploma mills or schools requiring little to no graduate level study. "Rightly dividing the Word" is too important to leave to individuals who lie or take academic short-cuts to gain position. Integrity is central to pastoral leadership. Likewise, I would not want to be taught by a pastor whose only qualification is that he has a "heart for God." Many wonderful lay people have similar hearts.
Doug,
I appreciate all your efforts in exposing these men.
Your courage of putting your name out there show you do hold them accountable.
We know you have endured much, but I and many others thank you for alerting us to those in the ministry that are truly "counterfeit ministers" and who are now considered "tares" among peers.
Now if we could only get them to do something about them.
I wonder if God cares about a resume. I wonder if God would approve of your blog. I wonder if all of the energy used to type all of these angry messages were bottled up and used to advance the Kingdom of God what great things could be done. I wonder if I will see you in Heaven. I sure hope so.
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:8
God cares about Truth and Love. I will be in heaven, I just can't speak for those led astray by false teachers and wolves in sheep's clothing.
That verse goes both ways my friend.
" Yes and with all the Hate Chad has spewed I also wonder if he knows God" I have seen it and read e-mails he sent and signed to a faithful member he cannot deny he did it and so he say what he and you want everyone to hear but I do not believe him he has to SHOW IT!!
Let he who hath NO sin cast the first stone.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
NUFF SAID!
Remember that stone the next time you watch him conduct church discipline.
Maybe the post you spoke of should be posted then all those who just think we are full of hate will see that it is comming from Chad. He is probally the one who is sending those post in. Or was it RebelYell??? Who claims to be a deacon and blasted me so nicely and Godly!
Rut Row
purifythechurch.com has posted a letter from a member from Trinity.
Someone was underestimated...
I didn't figure you would post my FACTS!!! I have proof to back it ALL up!! You just pick and choose what you want on here, I guess that is your right! I know 100% I am on the right side. I will pray you are healed from your obsession before it kills you and you wake up in HELL!!
You tried to post exactly what you have accused others of, straight gossip. There is one right side, and that is God's side. Your words clearly indicate the darkness of your heart, I pray that you find God before you have to face Him.
How loving to here someone saying he would see us in Hell. Boy that just sounds like the same Love that Chad shows.
We have left Trinity because I just can't stomach Chad's yelling and telling me that if I don't do what he is saying I must be lost. NO I AM NOT. I am not moving my membership for now but if God tells me to I will. The other day I saw a young man from TBC who I was always friendly with and now he talked so cold and hateful to me. He is one of Chad's facebook buddies so he ia mad because I did not like Chad.(I did not tell him someone else did) I did not talk or anything else I just left but now it is like I have the plague.I am saying this to let all the Chad followers that we serve one God and we do not have to be at Trinity to be a Christian. We will be in one Heaven. If people do not like the way Chad and Michele are running things they are free to leave or blog or whatever they chose. It just seems all the Love and Compassion has left TBC and without Jesus' love in our heart there will be none in the church.
The church takes on the charater of the preacher and it had rude and crude.
TBC Members I wanted to show you what was sent to me after I mailed copies of the e-mails that Chad and Michele sent to me. I mailed them to the deacons and also a few personnel committee members. What follows are the e-mails from someone who claimed to be a deacon.
Mr. or Mrs. Allen...I got something weird in my mail box the other day. Guess what we have had some people messing with our mailbox and it got your tag number, so guess what? Someone else knows who you are. You also put 41 cents worth of stamps and went into my mail box which is a violation. So not only does my camera know who you are, if I choose the police can now know who you are. Wanna talk friend? Why don't you people just leave this church and our pastor alone!!!!
So I e-mailed back…
Okay what was sent went from the post office with a dollar stamp and 3 10cent stamps. The post office sent it so if you took down a tag number it went to the post office. These are not lies and I am also a member. I do not know who Mr. or Mrs. Allen is so if as a deacon or personnel committee member you choose not to do anything it is on you. I will leave the church but if you do nothing when proof is shown of his hate filled attitude then it on you and the people will then know the deacons don't care as many think anyway you have proved their point to me. I felt differently and thought when you saw the proof you would at least want Bro. Chad to act like a pastor but I was wrong. If you wish to call the police then you must know I did nothing wrong. I sent what Chad wrote to me, and I also asked you to look at what Chad has said he already asked you to look at. It went from the post office and that too is legal. Stop getting so mad and just pray and look at the hearts that are breaking.
If you wish you can go after Mr. or Mrs. Allen but that is not me.
Have a blessed day
Then I received this…
Not only are you divisive you are also stupid! Most of our deacons already turned the letters in to the pastor. NONE of them had post marks, none of them had enough stamps (mine had 41cents).. We did laugh because you never took the Pastor up on his offer for a polygraph and then were dumb enough to highlight it. I will tell you what I told our Pastor--he was WAY too nice. The good that has come out of this is you are gone YEA! And yes, I do have some evidence...think what you want. You and your group have finally met your match. See ya!
P.S --You spell Swinnea---SWINNEA, and when you open a mail box that is not yours that is a crime, and Olive Branch is your city...and I will give you plenty more. But know this, the police will be notified by more than me. Buh,bye.
PART 2:
So I responded…
That is fine but I mailed them from the post office and they gave me the amount to put on each envelope. I did not put them into anyone’s mailbox and if I mailed it to you, you were a deacon or a personnel committee member. Thanks now the membership will know of at least one hate filled deacon and I am so sorry for the church I have loved and called mine for over 15 years. I have broken no laws and you have nothing on me. I did what the Lord told me to do in sending them out and if you do nothing then you have the same heartless heart as Chad.
My crimes:
1 I mailed from Southaven Post Office Legal
2 Sent copies of e-mails that were sent to me Legal
3 Gave a web site address that Chad claims he told you and PSC about first Legal
I also will say that in looking over the list of ladies and men I mailed these to NONE of them would have talked this way so I do think this is Chad. I am so over you and am very happy where I am attending with a Godly man and men in leadership. I only sent these out after being asked to and after praying about it for months. Chad you will answer for this. NOW LEAVE ME ALONE!
May God help you all
Then he wrote back…
I can assure you that I am not our pastor but after watching you respond and what you write, I am sure that you are the one who is hate filled. You say you are doing this because you felt God told you to but you are messing with a church and the people you say you love so you are the heartless one! I have watched you do this before with our previous pastors and so many of the hateful situations our church has gone through somehow you were always a part of them...you were in on all of them and I am tired of it. From the organ crap to Ben, you were a part of all of it. Like I said though, I am glad you are gone and am ready for you to just leave us alone. Tell your group that they can leave us all alone. We are done with this same old, same old. You requested that our Pastor leave you alone - so you leave us alone! And we pray for God's will to be done here everyday and for His help too but we trust HIM that HE is bigger than any person. HE brought Chad here and we are happy about it. Since you aren't it is good you left but, you left and you need to stay gone this time. Can't promise we will leave you alone though because you seem to want to keep on messing with us. If you and your group would just shut up and be gone it would be done. You made your choice to go and we made ours to stay so lets leave it at that.
All of this was sent from a Deacon or personnel committee member. I just can't believe that any of them are that hateful but after the e-mails that Chad sent to me, I do know he is.
People we must wake up!! This is how the people have been and are being talked to. If this is Chad and not the deacons as implied then he is willing for you to be blamed for this.
So next time you want to tell us about throwing stones, well we have the bruises to show you.
If this is true I might need to re-think what I have been thinking about all of this. I have stood behind my pastor and maybe I have been wrong.
you shouldn't stand behind a pastor who lies,tries to munipulate people,and runs members off and states who gives a rip if they left.Any God fearing pastor and Man of God would be concern if this many people have left. He would try to find out why instead of not caring. He also wouldn't be quick to anger, or try to cover his own butt. he wouldn't have to if God has his Back
Qualifications of Pastors
1 Timothy 3:1-7 (New King James Version)
1 This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach;
3 not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous;
4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence
5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?);
6 not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
Titus 1:5-9 (New King James Version)
5 For this reason I left you in Crete, that you should set in order the things that are lacking, and appoint elders in every city as I commanded you—
6 if a man is blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of dissipation or insubordination.
7 For a bishop[a] must be blameless, as a steward of God, not self-willed, not quick-tempered, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money,
8 but hospitable, a lover of what is good, sober-minded, just, holy, self-controlled,
9 holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.
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1 Timothy 3:1-7 (English Standard Version)
1 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task.
2 Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable , able to teach,
3 not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
4 He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive,
5 for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God’s church?
6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.
Titus 1:5-9 (English Standard Version)
5 This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you—
6 if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination.
7 For an overseer, as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain,
8 but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined.
9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
Don't you guys get it? God doesn't care about this mess. Trinity is not representative of his Bride and Chad is nothing more than an actor on a pseudo-ecclesiastical stage. Both are pretenders. God does not care. He's departed from them and they will twist in the wind until they repent or face His judgment. For those who have left...move on. "Shake the dust from your shoes," get on with serving somewhere else and thank God you do not have to listen to Chad's rantings any more. Rejoice, put a smile on your faces, and a spring in your steps. You can be free of the drama. God really is good.
I know God has not left the faithful ones who truly trust him but they are all that is holding it together. I think it is about to come to a head and I hope the correct judgement will be made.
Chad why do you think that everyone else in the church is wrong and you are right? There must come a point and time when you wake up and know it is your fault. Stop thinking it is someone else because it is you. Get your life right seek God and what HE wants for HIS church and follow his lead. Three churches in less than 5 years says YOU are the problem.
Oh My Chad I have heard many deacons are reading and talking about the packet of e-mails they received. Thought all the deacons gave them to you and did not even read them...... That was what was written in the other post from the e-mail from a deacon. Whoever wrote it and or received it it may have just done some good after all. I hope so we are all accountable for our actions and have to answer for them. I just hope the next pulpit committee looks better into your past and your destruction will stop here.
Jim you are wrong. God does care about what is happening in His church to His people. I do not know why God allowed Chad to be brought here but maybe to wake us up. I know God has not left us and I can feel him in the praise part of the service but when Chad starts to yell it is like God leaves. I feel that maybe if it were God's will that Chad came here or Jeff S. for that matter their houses would have been sold by now. We must do what is right and start reaching out and spreading the word but with all of this going on we just can't. Chad do what is best for Trinity and leave or get your life right. If it were right no one could say anything to cause doubt. Right now your ministery has a broken wing.
Trinity Members this past Sunday I visited a church in Olive Branch. I saw an older couple there that have always been very active and well respected at TBC. I talked to him and asked if he had joined and he replied no they're hope is to return to Trinity. As tears welled up in his eyes he told me that he was an active deacon when Chad first came in view of a call. He said that many of them were upset and did not like him the week before he came for the vote. They told the PSC that they felt he was wrong and the PSC called Chad and he came back and smoozed them. This man said that he had so much guilt for not standing up and speaking up but he thought Chad just made a bad first impression. He did say that him and his wife voted no for Chad. These people used to sing in the choir and he said that has been taken away to. Chad lied and said that would never happen and then hired Jon and made the choir just back-up for the praise team. He said that was due to the lack of support for the praise teams so we were punished. Chad you will answer for God's people you have hurt. You need to repent for all you have done. I may have to answer for reading here and posting but what you have done to the people in the Kingdom is a crime as well as a sin.
Of course God would care, IF it were His church and His people. However, that appears to no longer the case. Trinity is simply a religious business, peddling a mutant brand of "Christianity" that has absolutely nothing to do with Christ's gospel nor His church. Their relevance to God and His work in the world is of no more consequence than a crowd gathered in a stadium for a football game. Just because a group gathers in a building they call a "church" does not make them a church. Only the Spirit of God working within makes them a church. I certainly cannot discern the Spirit in that place they call Trinity, nor on the lips of their leader, Chad. However, if the lay people will gather the courage to stand-up to that petty tyrant and repent of their foolishness, they can be "church" again. I pray they will.
Chad Everson, Mike Everson, Jarrod Everson all have NO ministry.
It left a long time ago
They just think they do. What is so sad is that they continue down the same destructive path and will not even acknowledge their errors.
Until they do, they are toast and have been put on a shelf - All of them,.
Remember, It took David over 20 years before he realized his indiscretions and saw GODS removal and will for his life. It was not until David repented GOD came back to restore his fellowship.
Looks like it may be longer with these deceivers!
Oh Trinity Members my heart is broken for the way that Jim and others are viewing Trinity. The Bible says that where one or two are gathered there He will be also and I know there are many of us true believers there.
Deacons now you MUST act. I do not want to hurt this man and his family but at the same time he has no problem hurting mine. This MUST STOP. We have to stand up in the name of JESUS and take back God's church. Chad's job not ministery must stop here. I will not pay any more tithe either to hire him another "Friend" and pay him $100,000.00 per year. My family does not even make that much and for what they are doing they are robbing both God and the membership who gave it.
Jim you are wrong in how you perceive TBC. We do love the Lord and even if our preacher is having problems now there are many who do Love the Lord here.
We must resolve these issues so we can go back to to business of doing what God wants and not all this blogging. Please deacons do something to stop this you know something is wrong. I have heard you and many of your wives talking I know you just don't want to do anything. We will stand with you we just need real men to be the LEADERS God called you to be.
The Deacons were nominated and voted in by the members of the church to REPRESENT THE CHURCH and oversee how the church is being handled by this man. They are to make sure Biblical principles are being used in all functions of the church body.
If they fail to do what is obviously GODS will now, remove Chad Everson, then they need to resign and allow real leaders to handle GODS church - Not CHAD EVERSON.
It only gets worse, like father like son.
As a former member of Trinity, I feel I must speak. I loved this church while I was a member for over 10 years. However, I was not blind to the problems there. In my personal opinion, I believe God did bring Chad to Trinity to bring it down. God has provided so many people through the years to love and support this wonderful church. There has always, ALWAYS been a disgruntled faction within the body. Those that have been mentioned in earlier emails as "faithful members" have stirred up trouble about every staff member. I watched you year after year gather in the foyer to trash staff member after staff member. By the way, Bro. David wanted to add a 2nd worship service, not change the church! Good grief, I'm fearful that if God sent His own Son to be the Pastor, Jesus would fare no better. There is a root of sin and bitterness in TBC that God has tried to remove many times, but some "faithful members" have guarded their crops of pride and selfishness even if it meant destruction for the church. So "faithful members" continue to have your "prayer meetings", phone campaigns and gripe and gossip sessions. Blame everyone except your own self. Before you know it, everyone else will be gone. You can try to blame Chad, Bro. David, Mike or Bro. Jim, but the fault is yours. You will once again have YOUR precious church, but I don't think God will have his name attached to it.
You are sooooo wrong and by the way Bro. David wanted to change the main service and add one at 8:00 for anyone who wanted to come to the triditional service. There were more who wanted triditional service than the ROCK GROUP service. So there will always be people at all churches who may have issues but not everyone who is upset now are part of them. I for one like a contempory service and had no problems with Bro. David or Bro. Jim, Mike was not a minister and ran the church like the secretaries like limemen from Bell South. Chad is a different problem and unless you are here or have been you can't understand. Bro. Jim or Bro. David did not do at their other churches what Chad has done. I hope God does not crumble Trinity but is He does it is because the deacons sit by and allow it.
To Anon at 10:45 -
I am curious to know how long ago you left Trinity and why. Do you have first-hand knowledge of what is going on, or are you just assuming you know the situation?
I have said this before, but it is worth repeating here. I am not denying that there has always been a small, disgruntled group at Trinity, but this goes way beyond that handful of people. I have always been supportive of every pastor we've had until now, and I am not alone. We have people who have spent their entire lives at Trinity who are leaving. They've weathered all of the ups and downs over the years, and this situation is so disturbing that they are willing to leave the only church they've ever known. Deacons are moving their membership over this. Long-time teachers are giving up and leaving. If it was just a small faction trying to cause trouble, there wouldn't be so many people leaving. They would want to stay and keep causing trouble, right?
Speaking for myself, and I'll let the others speak up for themselves, I am not disgruntled. I am broken hearted. Please try to be a little more understanding.
You are wrong we would love to have Jesus there and HE would be far from what we have now. We have a liar who spews hate and anger. Oh how we would love to have Love and peace agian. And we also have not had all these problems forever or if we did I was not aware of them. I must not be in the same group of gossipers that you were.
Well we need to remind our members and deacons what a deacond job is according to Chad they are only there to serve and NOT to be involved with the preachers job or to dictate what he is doing... Maybe that is why we can not find any men who will stand up when asked about becomming a deacon. So far we had not had enough to replace the one who joined DeSoto Hills or the one who moved to Texas.....Sad but I guess it is our fault too. I have a question when is it the leaderships fault? When does the buck stop with them? Maybe if the Lord was guiding him then this would not be the problem it is. Yes you will always have people who just like to gripe but this is beyond that. If there were a vote now he would not get 15% of the vote and he knows it.
Okay I take offence to that. I am "Faithful Member" and I did not cause problems for either Bro. Jim or Bro. David.I have been attacked by Chad and Michele in e-mails (one is on purify the church site) and from someone who implied that he was a deacon that was posted on this page of this blog. So if you are not or have never been under this man then you can't speak about me. You do not know what this man has done and I would never put Bro. Jim or Bro. David in the same catagory with CHAD. Trust me Trinity is not the same as you left it when ever that was the only thing you may be correct about is that CHAD is bringing down a once strong church.
Anonymous at October 23, 2009 10:45 AM said:
"There has always, ALWAYS been a disgruntled faction within the body."
SO true!!! You all "faithful members" have always been trouble makers!
And you all should be the leaders of our church- The men and women that the younger generation can look up to. You should be ashamed of yourselves for the example you are setting to our young adults!
For those just sitting by and letting this man destroy your church, what example are you setting?
The Bible says that we are to respect our elders but with the past leadership over the last 5 years our elders have been very mistreated. So do not tell them about the way they look to the younger adults because to them the older members are useless. I will say this as a 36 year old person who has watched this happen and hate it. Stop calling names and thinking you know who is blogging here. Most of the senior adults do not even do all this computer stuff and many younger people are sick of Chad too.
To anonymous at 4:18 pm:
I know this has been stated before, but I'll repeat it, too. There are many of us who are terribly concerned about Trinity's future who have always been 100% supportive of our leadership until now. It is NOT an easy thing to speak up when I have NEVER done so before. Not all those blogging here are chronic complainers. I will also let you know that I, too, am a young adult. Our age does not mean that we can't see the truth of what is going on here. We're not complaining. We just want what is best for Trinity.
That is a big problem at Trinity no one seems to to respect any one. Bro.Chad has so much sarcasim and meaness that all the younger adults have picked up the same attitude. Several people who have always been nice are now close with Chad and I have seen such a change in then.We all need to repent and guard ond ur hearts so that they will not become hardend by all of this.
If Bro. Chad was any Godly leader then hwe have not come with 17% voting no to him comming. His charater is scewed and he too needs to repent because he judged people and still does.
Judge not lest you be judged. That goes both ways.
By the way, I am not the "Jim" mentioned in several posts by TBC members. May I make a suggestion to all of you who are members and "love" Trinity, but are "brokenhearted" with the current leadership situation: boycott the collection plate or and offering envelope for one month. Organize and do it together. Give that money to a worthy non-profit community organization or charity. Perhaps you would feel better sending it directly to the International Mission Board, the North American Mission Board, your local Association Missions office, or even your State Baptist Convention. Just do not put it in the collection plate at church. You just might get Chad's attention. When leadership fails to listen to the people they still have two powerful votes...one is their pocketbooks, the other is their feet. Complaining will not bring about meaningful change, but an assault on the "bottom line" just might have an impact.
I think this last post about the money is right on the target. Chad only came here because he :
1. Had to get out of Florida. What he did to MSBC was wrong. They could have filed charges.
2. He doubled his pay and we are paying for bothe the house he is renting here in Whitten Place as well as the $500,000.00 one he can't sell in Florida.
If his hands are tied with his god MONEY then he will leave. Money is tight in every home at TBC except his. I can't keep giving money I don't have to have it mis-spent. Who is in charge of the money at TBC? Who says NO to him? If anyone does he kicks them out of what ever they are doing. He needs to know that we did not vote to give him ownership of TBC. If someone did they over stepped their authority. He does not own us and it is time he knows it. Let him pay the bills next month.
Stop complaining, stand up, and do something about it, otherwise nothing gained.
That is how those who have stood against the Everson had moved them on and away in the past...
Them and there disciples have to be exposed.
otherwise the calvinist cells explode.
I am so NOT looking forward to church today. Chad will be back YELLING. I am sure after looking at this and I have been told he does I bet he will have much anger for all of us sinners. I do hope one day I become as perfect as he thinks he is. But no one on earth could ever be that perfect.
Sad today I don't think we had 600 people there. Ok deacons it is on you.... I give it til the end of the year and then I will be gone. In less than a year we have gone from bad to worse. How much lower does it have to go before you step up and put a muzzel on him. I don't want him hurt but he does not care who he hurts. I heard him being rude to someone today. The deacons would say something to a member who was being rude to Chad well? Well? Do we not get at least the same respect? No! You just want our money and us to keep our mouths shut. I am tired and I do not have to pay to be treated this way. How low will he take us?
i'm glad the boomers have stepped up and are speaking out....
Well I know that there are more upset than just the baby boomers. I am in my 40's and not happy.
No, I'm talking about "The Boomers"
Bro.Chad says he likes it when people talk about him. It makes him think and change.Right! That will not work the people of Trinity are smarter than that. I hope that something happens soon because our church may not withstand all of this. It is not only hurting the people, ministeries, faith,money, but how others view us and I know Jesus is very hurt over the way all of are divided. I will admit I was concerned about how much money Bro. David spent but I never questioned his heart. I hate this the most because I don't know if I can trust our leadership agian. They all keep letting us down. I will only trust Jesus He is the only faithful one here.
Everyone who is not happy should speak up. We also need to write the deacons. Chad tells them it is just a few people and I know that is not true. Stand Up and try to speak up this can change if we unite. Lets let Chad be like Joe Bryan who brought us together a long time ago. Let something good come out of this mess.
This has just gotten so bad.
If the Deacons will check and see if any of this is true. If he did send the e-mails to a member that were as hateful as claimed then that breaks one of the rules in the Bible for being a pastor. He is very quick to anger. If they have proof and do nothing then they too are doing wrong.
And whoever sent the e-mail that was posted here needs to be gone as well. We need peopel who will stand up for what is right. I am not saying that I am always right because I am not but to blast away at another member that way was just wrong. People are starting to act like him and think it is alright. The day one of his son's ever talk the way they hear daddy talk he will then understand maybe how he sounds. I just feel so bad for his wife and kids they know he is wrong but can't speak for fear.
On the churches website Bro.Chad's Blog tells of a church that is so much healthier than ours is. He also spoke of how it took this pastor 20 years at the same church for this to happen. Well I am sorry but I can not take this for 20 years. He is just telling us in so many words to give him time to fix our church. I know our church has problems but you will not fix something by screaming at us. We just shut down and stop listening. You could have something wonderful to say but we will not hear you.
I promise you Chad thinks that the deacons will roll over and allow him to do what ever he wants. He feels that he can do whatever he wants. From what I have heard there are some deacons not in his hand and that are not happy. Lets just see if he runs them off to. We need help I am going to write the paper it seemed to help Bellvue maybe it will make it to where someone will stand up to this bully! Do Not Pay Someone To Push You And Your Friends Around!!
Did someone tell the truth Chad????Looks like it you are all the sudden off Facebook. I told you that was what he did insted of working. I know people will do much better without Wednesday's Wisdon!!!!
There is much more truth in all these blogs if the deacons would just research. He tells us one thing and does another.
LOOK!! SEE!! DO!! It is up to YOU!
I just have one question. If all of you are so unhappy, why are you staying?
Wouldn't it be better for you to find somewhere else to worship? Instead of writing the paper, putting letters in the deacon's mailboxes, and witholding your tithe, wouldn't it just make sense for those who support the pastor to stay and those who do not to seek another place of worship?
I don't necessarily agree with everything Chad says or does. But the Lord has placed him there whether we all like it or not. And I support him as our pastor. We all prayed. The PSC prayed about it. The church prayed about it. Would God play a trick on us? No, he placed bro Chad at Trinity. If you don't support him, then that's your business, but don't try to divide the church over your preferences.
Why do you decide to stay and try to run him off? If you've had a problem with every pastor that we've had, then maybe the problem isn't with the pastor....
This one is not about preference. If you want to sit back and watch him destroy your church, that is your choice, but to let him move on to do it to yet another church is wrong and you and all the others that have sat idly by will have to answer for that.
Dear Justice,
That is very unfair to put all of this on Trinity. There is no way to stop him at our church and now you want us to do what two other churches did not do before us. You can not blame us for all of Chad's evil ways.
And for the person who wants all of us to just leave why don't you and Chad just take the few people who are backing him and start another church. I was here probally before you were born and I will be here after he leaves and I know he will. He is only in it for the money and it soon will stop!
We did not have a problem with every pastor we have ever had. They were Pastors. They served the people, they cared about us, they laughed, cried, sat up with us and did what ever it took to be a part of the membership's lives. Chad just wants to blow up every Sunday and think that we enjoy it. It is my "Preference" to stay. And I did not run off any pastor so guess what it is me who is the problem.
This is getting a tad bit ridiculous! I cannot believe that you truly love our church, but seek to tear it apart. I know that Satan is rejoicing in your actions. There is nothing he desires more than to break down the believer and have them busy with any task- as long as they aren't furthering God's kingdom!
I suppose you think that satan doesn't get a kick out of what our leadership is doing to this church. Just keep your head in the sand, it will all be over eventually and you can act like your holier than thou lack of action helped the situation.
Nobody is blaming TBC for him, but you have a responsibility to warn others and to stop him in his tracks there now.
Your leadership is to blame for bringing him there when they had an out and let him talk his way back in. If they are truly leadership, let them lead him straight to one of those nice wide exits you have.
No crazy is to think that any one person it does not matter who they are; Pastor, member, deacon or president of U.S.A. NONE of us are perfect and if you think that Chad is always right then you need to wake up! He may want nothing but his prefrences but that is a sin. A true pastor will look at all the needs of his people and try to meet in the middle. When God changes a church it does not happen the way Chad is doing it. You may want to think that all is wrong and Chad is right but there is none perfect on this earth not me or you or CHAD.
No One wants satan happy but the Bible also says not to cause a brother to stumble does it not. Well you may not like all of this blogging and neither do I but it is where we are for now. Do you not think that satan could possible make someone look good to put them into a church to tear it apart. I feel that that is what we have had happened. satan wants Chad here to finish what he has not been able to do.
i think it's so funny that you people think we don't know who you are.
Keep thinking you're anonymous...
Well make a phone call or drop by my house if you are so confident in that knowledge, John.
This week I read a story about a Marine Sergeant who went to court martial and was sentenced to 18 months in prison, $2500 fine, reduction in rank to Private and a Bad Conduct discharge. His offense: he lied about being in combat and represented himself as a war hero to schools, community organizations and businesses, for personal gain. Chad lies about his academic credentials, and it's overlooked. He brags about unearned accomplishments and he is encouraged. That doesn't even include his bullying behavior. TBC members, surely you must require at least as much integrity of your pastor as the Marine Corps requires of a Sergeant.
And, John, exactly who are the "we" you are referencing? The Trinity mafia? Are "we" gonna put a hit out on anonymous? Get real!
Ok be a BULLY CHAD!! But I know of three people that you are thinking we are and you are wrong. I know for a fact that you are black balling the wrong people but you are good at doing that. Once a Bully always a Bully. Maybe you are so evil to make up for your small size.
Sorry I was wrong Chad is still on Facebook I guess it was acting up the day I checked it. At least I can admit when I am wrong....... I guess we will be in for some more Wednesday Sarcasim.
Trinity Mifia don't you mean the Chad and Michele Patrol. You can't scare us or push us around any more. Put a hit out on people where are you from and please go back. This is the anger that you are inflicting on Trinity. We have never had this in all the years I have been here. The only thing that scares me is for all the weak minded younger couples who have fallen into your trap. They will answer to for all they are doing to others in Chad's Name. Would you want someone treating your children the way you are treating us? Do you want them to bully others. No we want them to love our friends what does Jesus say???
This is just a shame anyone who wants to have a worship filled life needs to leave. I can see the deacons will not controll him and all his groupies are just screaming for us to leave so we ought to. There are plenty of God filled churches in DeSoto Co. that we should not have to deal with him and his thugs. Let him then figgure out how to pay the bills which should come first and then the payroll. After all the people who tithe and work leave they will just have a great big empty building and no spirit.It will searve the deacons and leadership right. We have begged and pleaded for their help and they have just turned their backs on the people who they have called friends before the evil entered TBC. They will have to stand one day before God and give an account and then they will just have to take what they get. They had the chance and refused.
That is fine Chad come to my house and I will introduce you to Southaven's finest. We do have freedon of speech and if Obama can't stop it I know you can't. Stop your bulling when you make threats that is a crime and to tell you that I will call the police is not a crime. Why are the church leaders letting him do this to us. Can no one stop him or will you just sit by and allow him to bring us down. Just look at how he types he is full of hate and has no place in any pulpit. Come to my house and you will have a police record and then there will be proof to other churches that you can't smooth away.
Anon said "we prayed, so did the PSC and Chad came. God could have answered MSBC prayers and brought Chad to Trinity to be stopped. Think about it! God answers prayer when he is ready. Remember he is an "on time God"
Does anyone know the terms of the contract that Trinity has with Chad. I assume that there is some type of agreement. Maybe it is tough to release him from his position.
Trinity is no longer going to have Upward Basketball. My children have played Upward for years. I am sad but I hope that the new program works just as well. Does anyone know why Trinity has switched from Upward?
the cost....our basketball program will be much cheaper than upward. I think $30+ cheaper per child than upward.
Thanks Trinity Staff member who is reading this post!!We knew you did!
If his contract was at all based on his experience or education then theres an out! Membership leaving and money gone theres an out! I don't think it will take much to find a way to break a contract if there was one.
If the John that wrote that he knows who we all are is the same John that is a deacon then guess what we know who all of you are to. The ones who could stop him and choose NOT TO.
just because i know the price of the basketball league doesn't mean i'm a staff member. i signed my child up so i know how much cheaper it is.
get a life! you people say that you're not upset over preferences, it all has to do with chad's personality. then why complain about upward basketball??? That just shows that you have a griping and complaining spirit! You find anything you can to complain about! Turn your computers off and get a life! Do your kids and grandkids know that this is how you spend your time??? I would be ashamed if I was one of them...
Ok J.T.this comming from you who just posted here.
I do not have a problem with having a different basketball program and the person who posted about it was not dissing it. As long as it gives the same program as upwards with a reduced price that is great. In this day in time everyone needs a little help with money.
We do have a big problem with Chad's attitude and the way he talks and treats the membership who voted him in.So I am sorry if you were mistaken for the staff but we know they are reading and fishing for clues as to who to jump on next.
You are so right God is an on time God Yes He Is!!I know that He is totally in control. I also know that over the last five years we have gone through so much and I frankly am tired of the fight. I have had people be so hateful to me. A couple that I have known for over ten years got mad at me when I said I did not like Chad. We have a split here at Trinity larger than the Grand Canyon. With Chad here it will only grow. He just wants us who don't like him to leave and I am about ready to run.
He has actually made the comment that the only way to grow the church right is to have small entrances and large exits in the rear. To say that he only lets in "His Type of People" and all others can leave. This is what he and the deacons want then it will be their own fault what happens to the church. This is what they all want a CULT! And they may just get it!
The saddest part Trinity, you were warned!
You had one member screaming before the vote about CHAD, but no one would listen to her!
No One!
Now Chad is doing what he and the other Everson's do best - splitting churches and families!
Better get in his face, otherwise this train is headed for a huge crash.
Good Luck
I don't anyone would have ever voted him in if all this got out to everyone before he came. He lied and made the PSC think he was so mistreated. He is a great liar.
It is not like you folks at Trinity did not have fair warning that Chad would lie if it worked to his advantage. Look at his bogus educational accomplishments. That one lie shows him to be narcissistic and petty; a man with marginal intellectual capability who finds it easier to pretend than to "be" and more convenient to manipulate than to shepherd. It works for him, because good Baptist floks permit it. It's all about him...it's always about him. You are just a stepping stone toward the vision he has for himself. He's not in love with God nor Trinity, he's in love with Chad.
I agree with what Jim said. He must know him well or at least his type. Chad has so many just suckered in and they are falling for it at the cost of friends, family, teachers, mentors.He is tearing us all apart and so many can not or will not see it. I hate it because last week was my last Sunday at TBC. My Christian love and friendship, service and tithe are going out the large back exits.
WOW why can't others see him for what he is. Chad just loves to keep us divided and will not stop until the seasoned Christians leave so he can just have his way with the minds of the weak.
We visited Trinity the first Sunday they had service. We had watched it being built, the steeple going up and waited for the day of the first service. There were things that did not work and things did not all go as planned but the spirit was awsome. Our family had been active at another local church for many years and they had gone through a lot of problems and we just felt the Lord leading us to Trinity. We joined several weeks later and has been so blessed until now. We loved Bro. Jim and supported him until he left and then Bro. David came and we stood behind him even when we did not always like what was going on but he was the pastor and we trusted him. We have had many ups and downs but this is just heartbreaking. I have no trust for this man or his wife. I also do not trust Jeff S. either. I have sang in the choir for a long time and now out I just think John does not have the knowlege or skill to lead a choir. I don't know what we are paying him but it is to much. I have had children married here, and so many memories and with tears in my eyes and my heart breaking we will be at another church Nov. 1st. I have never caused any trouble and never would have even looked at a site like this in the past. With all of this from my Trinity family and what has been said by his last two churches and how he acts here it must be true. I feel that when God cleans house and He will I do not even want to be there. I know that things have been said to the deacons and I don't know what terms were made with him but it is very aparent that he can do what he wants. So Good bye my friends and I pray mercy and I hope I can return one day but I am also looking to the blessings God give in the future at a new place of worship. We just need to pray for Bro. Chad's salvation anyone with that much hate can not have the love of Jesus in his heart. He says we are lost but I do not hate anyone and I am saved.
To Anonymous at October 31, 2009 5:59 PM
I feel your pain. I too have had to come to grips with leaving a church I dearly loved. People I had served with, called brother and sister, laughed and cried with, people I thought I could never leave. But Chad changed so much. The division, mistrust and broken fellowship are all fall-out of his sin. He will not take any responsibility for his actions, and until God removes the blinders from his followers eyes, he has the backing to continue his reign of hate. Proverbs 6 list seven things the Lord hates, it concludes with "...and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers." Chad is quick to point to bloggers as the ones stirring up dissension, yet I know from first hand experience that he has caused such dissension over and over again.
Be encouraged, Chad will not prevail. God always wins in the end.
Do not lose hope, our God will repay.
Beware Trinity Family! After reading Chad's message this past Sunday I feel that he is going to try the pitty party move. I also worry about the people that he has labeled as trouble makers he may try to rebuke you in public. I would not trust his and we know he lies. I hope that maybe he resigns but that would only be a good dream. All you followers of Chad and not God he will let you just fall without a net be careful he is a snake in the grass.
I just feel that if Chad was in the right then his ministery would be growing. It has not. It has shrank. Until he gets right and starts loving the church like the Bride of Christ he will only have a job and not a ministery.
All Deacons I have to tell you that Bro.Chad told you that he had taken care of the e-mail thing and I am here to tell you that he has lied again. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise! I am "Faithful Member" and if sending me a rude, hateful and hatefilled e-mail saying he was a deacon was taking care of it I guess he did. Look at post from Oct22nd at 10:14 see the e-mail he sent to me. So I hope he isn't attacking any other members. So deacons I say again that you must step up and do what is right and in your heart you know he is not!!
Deacons, Chad has Lied and decieved the church Body At Trinity. If Chad is a man of God which he isn't then His Ministry should be Prospering... It isn't. People Have Left money is Down . Look at the Pattern This is the same thing That happened at His Other Churches. Look at the Real Picture not the crap that He has fed ya. Has he helped Trinity Grow? Has he Been concerned with The Members of Trinity or Just his " followers"? What excuses has he fed Yall? He has to fix Trinity? Trinity may have had some Problems but Nothing Like this. He has split the church and Now he is about to destory it. Divide and Conquer. Remember we are in spirtual war all the Time and Satan doesn't want us to win so he will pull out all the stops. Now he has manage to get in Deep he got someone in our Pulpit. Deacons, Bob Eison you know Better. I have only Know you and the Oconnors for about 38 years. Do what is right By God, not by Man. Please wake up and see what is really Happening. Former staffMember and Still Praying for Gods Mercy in this Storm
what did he lie about and how has he deceived us?
That's the constant accusation....can you please give me some specifics...
Told ya...
Splitting churches and families.
It is all they (the Eversons and their disciple followers including all their Pastor buddies throughout the Baptist Conventions) know how to do.
What a sorry bunch!
By telling the deacons that he had taken care of the e-mail thing he lied... J.T. I am not making up anything I am the one he wrote to and I am the one who made the copies, bought the postage, spent hours highlighting 20 pages of e-mails and mailed them for the post office to deliver. He said I put them in the mailbox and he has a photo of it another LIE.... If he will lie about something that so many of you feel is nothing then believe me he lies about the BIG stuff you are just afraid to because you know the truth deep inside.
I have noticed several people who have stated that if Chad is really a man of God then the ministry at Trinity would be flourishing. This is dangerous thinking. By that standard, Jim Bakker must have really been a man of God, b/c his ministry grew immensely. At the same time, Noah must have been a wicked, ungodly man because he preached for 120 years with no converts. God's view of success is totally different than ours.
And lets not forget Jim Jones who had a large ministery that fell apart after a "pot luck" .
We can go back and forth over and over but it is only common sense that says when the money has fallen and people come to Sunday School and then leave before church starts. When membership who have been at Trinity some all their lives leave. Then this is a not a ministery. He can blame all the members who do not like him. He can blame all the people from his last 2 churches that he left in shambles. He can blame the president but at some point he has to take the blame and he will. I want to hear the truth and not more claims of mistreatment unless he has the people from FL and GA there to answer for what he says they did. I do not want to hear just one side that can be made to sound any way he wants it to sound.
And this is the 3rd church that has people who feel the same way. WAKE UP it has to be him at some time and point who has done wrong.
Sorry I do not trust him. He knows he is in trouble and that people don't care for him so here goes his stories. Just because I don't care for Chad does not mean that I do not LOVE Trinity. I do he just wants you to think that if we are not with Chad that is the same as not being with the Lord and that is just CRAZY. I haved prayed before church for the Lord to show me if something is wrong and everytime he does....Pray He will show you too if you really want to see.
anon 10:31...
i was one of the people that got an envelope from you. There is no post mark on it. If you had sent it from the post office, there would be a post mark. Also, there were four 10 cent stamps and one 1 cent stamp. a regular first class stamp cost 44 cents. The envelope that was in my mailbox was much bigger than a regular envelope. That just doesn't add up....literally!
former staff member,
how dare you call out Bob like that in a public forum. Especially since you don't even have enough nerve to leave your own name. Nothing but a coward. You don't even have the guts to leave your name!
So if you're a former staff member, but won't tell us your name, we'll just call you cecil brewer! That's exactly what you're acting like!
This just goes to show that you are interested in nothing but causing division. If you don't like the deacons or where the church is headed, then why are you staying??
Look the post office gave me the stamps I put them on each envelope and put them in the slot at the Southaven Post office. If the person gave me 1 cent stamps insted of 1 dollar stamps then I am sorry but they were mailed and paid for so Get A Life. Were you charged postage???? Why would I have put any postage on 19 envelopes that I was going to drive around and place inside of mailboxes. Something I know is wrong. You just want to try and take eyes off Chad and put it onto me...
Chad is wrong and it makes you mad that I exposed it!
faithful,
i'm sorry, but your story doesn't hold water. i go to the post office all the time. When you pay at the counter for postage on an envelope that size, they print out a label and put it on the envelope. Then it is postmarked as it passes through their system. Your story just doesn't add up. And then the fact that you told me to "Get A Life". You just admitted that you spent time highlighting emails and addressing envelopes. But I'm the one that needs to get a life?? Your plan didn't even work! And the more your story snowballs, the funnier it gets. The reason as to why you put stamps on it, is because you wanted it to look like it was mailed. You didn't think anyone would notice. But your plan back fired on you. You got caught in a lie. There's no explanation you can give that will make sense.
even if they gave you a 1 cent stamp instead of a 1 dollar stamped it still wouldn't have been mailed. it would have to go through their system to get post marked. Just give it up.
Also Members please read the churches BLOG. He said there that he came to be the Preacher. I thought we wanted a PASTOR. There is a difference. A Pastor cares.
I want to start by saying that I am not for women to be pastors or deacons but this is not the case. I want you to know about a Sunday School class at Trinity. We have had a lady who is a school teacher by trade and is so knowledgeable about the Bible. She is an Awesome teacher and has taught a couples class on and off for years. There are no complaints made by men about a "Woman" teaching them. Well now Chad has a problem with it. He has decided to "TEACH" the class himself and place a man who has taught the class before and had lots of trouble. This is just an example that Chad must run EVERYTHING HIMSELF. Mrs. Bobbie is great and you will answer for again not allowing the people of God to use the gifts God gave them. You have done it to the choir and now to teachers who's next. Mrs. Bobbie I want to thank you for all the time and study you have given to the Lord and I know that God will continue to bless you. I Love You!
JT:
Come on! You want to blast "former staff member" for calling on a specific person to do something about the situation at Trinity, yet you turn around and do the very same thing by using Cecil's name? Is that not the pot calling the kettle black? And, really, going back almost 15 years? Is that the best you can do? I'm not saying that "FSM" was right to do that, but honestly, can we keep this discussion current? Could we all keep people out of this who have nothing to do with it? Are you just trying to get us to chase rabbits? Cecil is long gone. Give me a break. That was low.
You are NUTTS!!!! They were mailed and I did not break any laws. Come on then I can show the receipt and then you will SHUT UP!!
If we are too busy chasing rabbits then we forget about the "Big Bunny Chad"
how do i know that it wasn't cecil since he didn't sign his name?? my point wasn't to chase rabbits, and it's not the pot calling the kettle black. he can call out someone all he wants to, just be man enough to leave your name. it's easy to hide behind a keyboard and blast someone else anonymously....isn't it?? you both would know. but you don't like it when someone does it to you! See how it feels....
J T sounds a lot like Chad and types the same way to. You need to be worring about your so called pitty meeting for Sunday night and stop fighting with members who are worried about the church they love. You know your days may be few here. I know of another Deacon who has left and he was here when Chad first came. He left soon after he started because he had many questions before the vote and Chad danced around them and would not answer. Go Figure
JT, who is BOTH of you?
anon 2:22 and former staff
post the receipt on here. this blog only posts truth, so if you truly mailed them, scan the receipt and post it on here...
Okay Chad when you scan the envelope that you have that was NOT mailed to you and show that the postage was wrong and not delivered by post office. Oh I want the photo you have of me and my car..... You don't have it Chad cause the POST OFFICE DELIVERED IT....You have larger things to worry about.
On the Trinity Blog site Chad said that over a thousand people came on a cold Sunday night in November to vote him in as a "Preacher" Well we had a "Pastor Search Committee" Not Preacher Search Committee" and it was a cold night in December when he came. It ment so much to him that he didn't even get the date right. For the record we made such a stupid mistake by voting you in by 83% on December 7,2008. A day we will forever regret.
Get the facts right Chad.
if i'm so wrong and you are so right, just scan and post the receipt. you claimed you have it. and this blog only posts the truth.
So let's see it...
I hope whoever sent those e-mails sends Bro. Chad the copy of the receipt so he can go back to ruining the church you know something he is paid to do. He needs to grow up and stop being a baby. The evnelope I saw had a post make on it and the correct postage. It was sent to a deacon friend of mine who was very upset and did not turn them into the preacher as he stated.
Grow Up Chad!!
When Chad was at MSBC he told us that his wife was sick and led us to believe she had cancer. He knew we were about to get rid of him and that might stop us. It did and later we found out she did not have cancer. I would never want to mislead about something like cancer. You can't trust him Trinity people he will say or do anything to save his job.
I hope not. He has already started saying she is sick and she did get up and leave church Sunday A.M. I hope her the best and would not wish any harm to her. She has enough problems just living with him. I feel bad for her. I know that the personel committee would fall for it. They did with A.C. I do hope she is well but living under the stress she has I can understand it.
That is just sick of him to do. I would never say anything about any member of my family like that. He will have so much to answer fo one day. There is just to much about him I can't trust. This is our leader we are in trouble. I hate this we had such faith in you Chad and again you let another church down.
since only truth belongs here, i'm still waiting for that receipt, since you said you have it. Mine, along with all the others i saw didn't have a post mark. Something doesn't add up. So lets see the receipt, and that will end the argument. I mean, if you're telling the truth, which is all that is posted here, then that will answer any questions we have.
Chad tried the old fraudulent mail thing at MSBC too. Said from the pulpit that a nut, referencing Doug Pittman, committed mail fraud when somebody sent letters about his “big brother” Jarrod viewing porn on church computers at Pray's Mill, but he found out he was wrong when he was confronted about it.
And we found out who the " real nut" was, and it sure wasn't Doug.
Chad's dad recently accused Doug of cutting his wife's tires to the Wartburg site writers, which was ANOTHER of the Everson's infatuation with accusations that are totally false ..
Another lie by another Everson
Chad has a history of lies, so why not ask him to put those he accuses in front of him.
He, nor any of his cowardly family members, will not EVER confront those who speak the truths...guaranteed
I started off not believing what was being written here in GA, but after all the proof, it was a very easy transition to believe someone who was treated so devilish by Mike Everson.
Like Father, Like Sons...
Fire Chad Everson now Trinity or continue suffering as a church for years to come...
O.K. Chad the receipt is being posted so please send me your proof of my photo of my car and me breaking the law by entering your mail box. You can't because it does not exist. You lied again and this time it bit you...
Okay all Triniy members and Chad Click on the "Newer Post" to the newest post to see the receipt!!!!
Come on CHAD I want to see my picture you know the one you don't have........Faithful Member I did not lie so show me your proof ...
Dr Who mentioned that Mike accused Doug of cutting his wife's tires. Similarly, Chad told us at Trinity a few months ago that someone cut his brake line about a year ago. Anyone know if that is true or any details?
I'm sure this site will post the receipt for the line or the repair if he wants to send it in.
"Anonymous said...
I have noticed several people who have stated that if Chad is really a man of God then the ministry at Trinity would be flourishing. This is dangerous thinking. By that standard, Jim Bakker must have really been a man of God, b/c his ministry grew immensely. At the same time, Noah must have been a wicked, ungodly man because he preached for 120 years with no converts. God's view of success is totally different than ours.
November 3, 2009 11:11 AM"
VERY GOOD POINT AND VERY TRUE!
God sees the things we don't see and uses them to His glory.
PRAISE GOD!
FormerStaffMember is Wade. Pretty obvious!
That is right and like I also said don't forget Jim Jones who had an awsome ministery that fell apart after a pot luck and kool aid party...
Also Chad we had a larger ministery at TBC until Chad came now it is just going down.
To Anon at 1:11
"FormerStaffMember" is not Wade. Good try, though. If you will check "fsm" posts, that person has a much longer history with Trinity than Wade. They go way back - probably so far back most of us wouldn't even know them. Don't point fingers if you aren't going to do your homework. It's "pretty obvious" you should go fishing somewhere else.
To FormerStaffMember: Would you please post and clear this up?
I do not think it is Mr. Wade who is former staff member. He knows a lot but he still will not talk. He could hurt Chad but chooses not to. He is a man of God. That is the difference Chad. You should listen to the Bible and learn from your elders who are men of God. Mr. Wade is ten times the man you wish you could be.
Wrong again Guys. I am not wade. I have been a member of Trinity since 77. Wade and his dear family didn't come to trinity till much Later. My History with Trinity Goes much father back.Come to the Show Sunday night, And Watch one of Chad performaces. Former Staff Member
Does it matter who any of us are? The fact is that there a many people who just don't care for the style of preaching Br. Chad does nor for his attitude or anger issues he has. He is a hot head and has proven to not tell all the truth all the time.
If he asks for us to stand up behind him tomorrow night I will not. If we could re=vote I would take back my vote.
This was such a waste of time. He lied and said he Always takes the accuser when he confronts people well just ask the Choir Officers they ask him who talked about them and he refused to say.
You saw Chad not even a third of the church is with you. Give it up.
I did not have to sign a letter to bro. Jim or Bro. David and again you are taking what was said to you about that. Did they tell you themselves about what was done? NO! You are crazy and I did notice that you said you had sinned but never said I'm Sorry!
Okay Trinity Members we have seen how he has the DEACONS in his back pocket. He is running people out of the church with his "small front door and large back exits" ideas. He is a Calvinist and only believes that if you are one of the CHOSEN and think like him you are worthy. Well Bro. Chad I am worthy by the Blood of Jesus and I am saved by that same Blood. You and none of the deacons or other followers can change that. You did not change anything by your Grand Show Sunday night. You saw it for your own eyes and if you post things that were not true the ones who were there will tell the truth. You have a broken ministery here and you need to leave with at least a little diginity if that is possible.
**P.S. We are watching to see if the church trys to make us pay for more of your house in Florida. We only said 1 year so cut your spending at home cause you need pay it yourself. You are not special and need to pay your own bills or cut the price from $500,000.00 to sell it!!**
All of this "HOOPLA and Dog and Pony Show" did not change my mind Bro. Chad is not what Trinity needed and I can't take this mess anymore. The staff and deacons can stand up there and make a show that they are behind him but I know several that are NOT. I blame them for not taking a stand. For the future PSC and there will be one soon, if a man has to talk you into calling him then he is not the right man. Staff members did not like him and six or seven are now gone. He has people who do not even know how to do the jobs they were hired for making more money than most of the membership who are paying them. Deacons did not like him and many are gone and we can't even find replacements for them. Soon it will just be Chad, what staff is left and Jimmy H. running the church and it will be a sad place to be. Not for me and my family we are gone.
Oh my goodness look at the lies Chad and Michele have posted on the Trinity site....He has posted that it was just a small sample of all the e-mails and phone calls about the most awsome service Trinity has ever had. I was there and he lied. Should that shock any of us. Read the church blog site but have a bag close it will make you sick!
What I think is phony is that Chad post all those dramitic comments with NO NAMES. I was there and that did not happen. Wake Up Chad you were dreaming.If members said all of that you would have at least put their names. I just think that they would have not had any problem posting their names if they really said it.
I was at the special service on Sunday night. I was very disappointed in what I saw. What I witnessed was a very orchestrated display. It was a puppet show with Chad being the puppet master. It was clear that the whole night had been carefully choreographed to make Chad look good to the people of Trinity and to make them forget all of the things that he has done. He has not made any amends or apologies for any of the things posted on this sight. The service was just a bunch of smoke and mirrors to try to make those that know the truth forget about what they know.
It did not work. He has burnt the bridge and has done nothing to rebuild it. Remember what Ema said at the start of the Trinity blog.....The poor people of Trinity are smarter than that....We may not have been in December 2008 but November 2009 it is all different now and we are watching you.
The people who have suffered under him before warnned us about the "Big Show" we would see Sunday night. I expected more but I guess when Chad saw all of the post here he knew he had to plan everything just right and he did. People who did not even know Bro. Jim went and signed a letter to say they were sorry for something they did not even do. All because Chad said to. This is scarry we should follow Christ and not Chad. Folks get in the word read the rest of the story not just what Chad says. If he told you all to dye you hair a certin color you would. He is just trying to make clones of himself. I should have stayed home and watched Joel for the first time in my life and I would have gotten more from the evening.
Went to Life Fellowship and there are several young families that have gone there from TBC. They did not like Chad either. So if all that like him are the 75-85 people that went down Sunday night then why is he still here. We ought to do what he keeps telling us and we should leave. Then we will see how long he will last with no workers, teachers, choir, musicians, nursery workers, and his all time favorite MONEY!
I have watched Chad and he may not like this comparison but he is a lot like Joel. He has those who just follow him blindly almost like a junkie does a dealer. He has has these weak minded people included the deacons just comming back for all they can injest. The ones he can't just sway he will bully into submission or into leaving. We need a detox unit.
I agree he has people following him like puppies.I also know that many are still visiting and his show Sunday night did nothing to change anything. Now they want to post all those positive comments with no names on them and we are susposed to just accept their word for it. Why is that right but we are wrong for doing the same here. If I posted on the churches site all those wonderful comments, knowing that Chad would not send the Mafia after me I would have no problem posting my name. I think no names were given cause they would all be from Chad, Michele, Jeff S. and Carol Ann...and a few other clones.
People must start to stand up not for TBC but for what Jesus would do!
God help all of you.
This was an eye-opener. I am one of those who got their Dr. from Lake Charles Bible College. What has been stated as to the quality of the work and requirements is simply not true. I had to submit all my prior education, college, seminary, etc. to the school and after a fair length of time I got an answer. I wrote for almost two years and submitted my papers to the school After their critique I graduated. This was a milestone in my live and I thank LCBC for what they did, especially in their encouragement during my work. Dr. Stevens, especially way wonderful, encouraging and very helpful.
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